This page contains material from the August 2001 newsletter.

EDITOR: Jim Pittman NEXT MEETING: Wednesday August 1st, 7:30 PM Galles Chevrolet, Lomas & University THIS MONTH: Dues Due Sylvan Zuercher New Members Sylvan Zuercher July Meeting Notes Chuck Vertrees Board Meeting Notes Chuck Vertrees Driver's Seat Hurley Wilvert For Sale, Trade or Wanted Everybody Seven Years Ago Jim Pittman Calendar of Coming Events Everybody August Meeting Talk Robert Gold August Campout Debbie Deck Oil Filler Cap Revisited Sylvan Zuercher Old Route 66 Cleanup Ollie Scheflow TECHNICAL: Restoring a 1964 Monza Richard Finch Another Valve Adjustment Tech Tip David Hebert (Seth Emerson) Turbo Talk Bob Helt COVER: At the Galles Chevrolet Car Show, and lots of scenes from the Nob Hill Show (all photos by Jim Pittman) =-=-= ABC News reported on 16 July 2001: And in the Czech Republic, an odd and intriguing claim from Philip Morris, the American tobacco giant. Czech officials have been worrying about the health-care costs that cigarette smoking causes to the public. But Philip Morris says, look on the bright side ... you might be spending much more, if it weren't for smoking-related illness. The cigarette maker reportedly said that smoking is good for the government's finances, because of savings from early deaths. The Wall Street Journal found the statement in a November 2000 report prepared for Phillip Morris. =-=-= Dues Expired or Due or Approaching Due: Dennis Pleau 05/2001 Mark Morgan 06/2001 Sylvan Zuercher 08/2001 Jack Bryan 09/2001 Ron Deck 09/2001 Lee Olsen 09/2001 Del Patten 09/2001 Jon Anderson 10/2001 Jon Lovett 10/2001 Joel Nash 10/2001 John Topp 10/2001 If your membership is due or has expired, please send your dues to: Wendell Walker, CNM Treasurer, 301 Utah Meadow, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 Note: the Club will mail in your National dues when you renew, but only if you send us the renewal form from CORSA Communique! The CORSA Home Page: http://www.corvair.org CNM's home page: http://www.corvair.org/chapters/chapter871 =-=-= NEW MEMBERS Sylvan Zuercher Rick & Chris Covington Rick has purchased Ruth Boydston's 1961 Rampside which has a 110 HP engine. Rick is retired from the U.S. Navy and states his mechanical background as Old Timey Backyard. It sounds as if he will fit right in with most of us. John & Alice Mattern John has had a Corvair since 1968 and is now driving a nice 1964 Monza coupe that has recently been repainted. He is looking for a set of good rocker panels. Any offers? John's mechanical experience is changing tires and batteries. John and Alice are both teachers with APS, John instructing Band students at Eisenhouer Middle School. The band has played at Disneyland, and was invited back for another concert and they are the only middle school band invited to perform at the Albuquerque Ballon Festival. Welcome to CNM! Let us all make a point of getting better aquainted with these and other recent new members. -- Sylvan Zuercher =-=-= JULY MEETING NOTES Chuck Vertrees The meeting was called to order at 19:30 on 7/11/01 at Galles Chevrolet. All officers were present. Two new members were introduced, Rich Covington who bought Ruth Boydston's Rampside and John Mattern, who has a 1964 Corvair. The minutes of the last meeting were approved as printed in the newsletter. Treasurer Wendell Walker reported that CNM has $72.85 in the checking account and $5,540.28 in the money market account for a total of $5,613.13. (A short time later in the meeting Wendy announced that he had just received $100.00, so that as soon as he can get it deposited, the checking account will look healthier.) Contrary to rumor, Wendell has NOT purchased a used BMW. Mark Martinek presented the Car Council Report, the gist of which will be in the next newsletter. Of special interest is the request by the Car Council that representatives bring along another club member to the meeting. The meeting is held on the 4th Wednesday of the month. Anyone who is interested, please contact Mark. Mark also brought up a new publication, the Motor Enthusiasts Newspaper. You can check their e-mail site at swmenews.com. Mark Domzalski reported that he could tell you how many days it will be until he is unelected as president of CORSA. (By the time you read this it will have been accomplished.) Mostly right now CORSA officers and board members are putting together the agenda for the upcoming meeting. OLD BUSINESS: The mystery tour was a big success. There were 22 people on the tour. One of the high points of the tour was Sylvan Zuercher's placing third WITHOUT a navigator. Also, it should be noted that Tarmo Sutt successfully finished the tour with an exchange student navigator whose first language is NOT English; but Tarmo's cell phone won out. What does this mean? Ask Tarmo. The June 30 Galles show went well with about half the cars being Corvairs. Steve Gongora's Lakewood was prominently displayed in the showroom. At least one person was overheard to ask if Chevrolet had started selling Corvairs again. CNM had two prize winners, Steve Gongora and Mark Domzalski. Burgers and dogs were relished by all. The Fourth of July show on the Plaza in Santa Fe was better attended than ever with 115 cars. Initially, Tarmo and Kay's 1965 Corsa was the only Corvair in the Plaza display area. The other Corvairs were located on a back street just beyond the limits of the display area, but after awhile they were allowed into the main car show area and parked in what was quickly named "Corvair Alley." There was some discussion about the olfactory experiences to be had in Corvair Alley and Steve said it was really fun turning your car around in a narrow space. You have to get there very early to get a Place in the Sun, I mean, a place on the Plaza. Wendy and Jim went up in the Pantera. They left Rio Rancho before the sun rose, at the nicest time of a summer day. Jim did not have much to say at the meeting, but ask him about driving the Pantera to Santa Fe and back. He and Wendy thought they were late by arriving just after 7:00 AM when quite a few cars had not yet been parked in the Plaza display area. There always seem to be many complaints about the Santa Fe Plaza car show. Among other complaints, this year there was a lot of noise about a car restoration outfit which brought several British sports cars and apparently expected to be judged as if the cars were privately owned. Some of us just enjoyed looking at the cars and didn't worry about the judging, but then, what do we know? Jim enjoyed walking around Santa Fe and managed to get quite a few pictures, some of which we may get to see someday. The Annual Corvair Campout will be August 11-12 at Ruth Boydston's place in the Pecos. Debbie Deck has promised a corn roast on Saturday night. Bring your own meat. Everyone needs to let Debbie know that they are coming and how many so she will know how much corn to bring. Let her know no later than the next meeting. Steve Gongora has gone to a lot of effort to try to set up a car show on July 21st. It would be right in front of House of Covers on Richmond NE, which would be blocked off to traffic. The Nob Hill Association is behind this 100%. Steve was told that he would need traffic barricades, which come through the city, and he is waiting for the final word on that. He is trying to make it a multi-club affair by inviting the Mustang and Corvette clubs. Robert Gold said that all CNM members should really appreciate the amount of time and effort Steve has put in on this. Steve also announced that the new CNM patches are on their way. Ruth Boydston asked the men in CNM let their wives read the newsletter, so that they will know what is going on. The CNM ladies are meeting next at the Sticklers' cabin. NEW BUSINESS: Steve Gongora and Jerry Goffe had their Corvairs used in a Rudys commercial. Jerry has a copy of it and will show the commercial after the meeting. A letter that was received from the Muth Insurance company of Santa Fe was read. They are pushing low cost classic car insurance. The letter was given to Robert Gold so that he can contact Mr. Muth about maybe coming down and giving a presentation. Hurley received a letter from the Cedar Crest Fitness Center, which will be having a fundraiser for Breast Cancer Awareness on July 28th. Anyone who is interested should contact Hurley. Tarmo and Steve reported that a possibility for the October Aspencade would be a trip to the Shadoni Foundry in Tesuque just north of Santa Fe. They do bronze casting and would give us a tour, showing some actual casting in progress. Afterwards we could go someplace for a late lunch. Someone suggested Chimayo? The date is still not firm because of several conflicts, including the week-long balloon fiesta in Albuquerque. Larry Blair announced that he is in contact with someone who has a late model coupe that he would like to give away. It has an engine and everything and a New Mexico registration. It would definitely be a project car. Larry passed around some pictures. It was said to be a 1966 but appeared to have 1965 lenses and trim. Maybe it's a mix-and-match. Bill Reider was helping his grandson do a valve job when a tap broke off flush with the surface. Bill passed around a tool, which he designed on the spot to remove the tap, and reported that it worked like a charm. The Route 66 cleanup is scheduled for this coming Saturday. It was decided to start at 08:00 instead of the usual 09:00. It won't be quite as hot. Robert Gold reported that the State Fair Show is all set for September 23rd. We will meet at the Furrs parking lot at 07:30 so we can go in together. There will be enough ribbons so that everyone will get an award. Robert also has made contact with the person who can hopefully quieten the radio station booth that made the afternoon so unpleasant last year. The meeting was adjourned at 20:18. After the meeting we had an interesting presentation on Sandia Motorsport Park. (After Chuck e-mailed these minutes to your editor, some distortions, additions and modifications somehow worked their way into the minutes. Please blame any such unwelcome changes to the minutes on the editor, and not on Chuck.) =-=-= BOARD MEETING NOTES Chuck Vertrees The July board meeting was held at House of Covers on 7/18/01. Present were Wendell Walker, Steve Gongora, Robert Gold, Sylvan Zuercher, Jim Pittman and Chuck Vertrees. The minutes of the last meeting were approved as published in the newsletter. Treasurer Wendell Walker reported that CNM had $219.25 in the checking account and $5,555.29 in the money market for a total worth of $5,774.54. Wendell said that, "If it hadn't been so much trouble, I would have put 21 cents in the money market account so it would have come out all fives." Several others offered to take up a collection for this purpose. Apparently none of us did the arithmetic fast enough to tell Wendy it would take a few more than 21 pennies to make the sum come out as desired. (To those of you who are members and haven't been to a board meeting, you are all welcome, and they can be fun and possibly entertaining.) Steve Gongora had the new patches and they looked great. They will sell for $7.00 to the members. Steve had also gotten the price quote on the badges. There is a $25.00 set up fee for any quantity. Quantities of 25 cost $2.50 each and quantities of 50 cost $2.23 each. The board instructed Steve to go ahead and order 50 badges. Steve then reported on the July 21st Car Show for the Route 66 celebration. To get the permit to close off the street and have the show, he had to get an appointment to appear before the board that approves these things. The appointment was for him to be at the Plaza del Sol at 11:10 AM last Friday. There are 13 people sitting on the board and each asks questions if what you are planning falls under their jurisdiction. Nine different people questioned Steve about what we were planning to do before they approved and signed Steve's paper work. The representative from the Police department hadn't shown up, so Steve had to run him down separately. (After crawling out from that Steve was serious, so he signed.) Once Steve had all the signatures, he paid $21.00 for the permit to barricade the street. The barricades have to come from Highway Supply Company and would have cost $150.00, but Larry Blair made a connection with them and they are going to supply and set them up for free. The board is going to send a letter of thanks to Highway Supply, and all the CNM members should be sure and thank Larry Blair. Larry has quietly done many things for CNM over the years that a lot of people don't know about. (We even discussed during the meeting that the board should take the lead in curbing our occasional teasing of Larry about oversized pot holes, poor water quality, excess orange barrels, etc etc, but finally decided we would probably not have enough moral integrity to do that. Nevertheless, we do have enough gumption to seriously thank Larry for all his contributions to the club.) Steve has invited the Corvette Club and the Mustang Club to join us and there are quite a few other interesting cars that are planning to come. He has three trophies and quite a few door prizes. He is also hoping to get some free radio spots. Many CNM members will be called to help Steve set this up. There was other planning discussed at the meeting, but there wasn't a lot more to do after Steve had spent hours and hours of his time setting this up. Sylvan will call many of the CNM members who had not signed up on Steve's list. There was some discussion about the Santa Fe Fourth of July Car Show and Corvair Alley Massacre by the Dumpsters. Telling about it was probably a lot funnier than living through it at the time. The Santa Fe Car Club has assured Wendell that if we will let them know how many cars are coming from CNM next year, spaces will be set aside for us. The October Aspencade was discussed. As previously mentioned, it will be to the bronze foundry near Tesuque. The date was a problem since the first and second weekends conflict with the Balloon Fiesta, and there is also a conflict on the third weekend. It was decided to set the date for October 13th, knowing that some people just cannot come. With as many members as we have, date conflicts are bound to happen. Sandia Motorsports will try to work out a weekend in October for CNM if six members are willing to sign up. It would involve time on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at a cost of $120.00 per person. It will be brought up at the next meeting. We received some raffle tickets from the Four Corners Car Club in Farmington. The tickets are $5.00 each and will be available at the next meeting. They are raffling a 1964 Corvair Monza coupe with the proceeds going to the Farmington Museum Foundation. There will be pictures of the car at the meeting. The tickets say "1964 sedan" but the photos show a coupe. The drawing is scheduled for October 7th. The meeting was adjourned at 18:30. (After these minutes were e-mailed to your editor, some distortions to the narrative were mysteriously introduced. Any unhappy effects of these distortions should be attributed to the editor, not to Chuck.) =-=-= FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT Hurley Wilvert By the time you read this, the Route 66 celebration will be over. Steve Gongora put in a tremendous effort so that there would be a place to display our cars, along with other interested clubs, in the Knob Hill area of Albuquerque. That should all be taking place as I write this. A tremendous "Thank You" goes out to Steve for his successful efforts in getting this event accomplished. I trust all that participated had a great time. Route 66 has a special place in my memories. When I was young, I was once, I decided I'd move to California from where I lived in Cincinnati. I did not own a Corvair then, but a less powerful, but still rear-engined car, the Renault 8. I sold what things I could, bought a large trailer, put what I had left in the trailer and set out for California. I didn't have a job but figured I'd find one when I got there. I remember driving through New Mexico and Albuquerque and thinking it too would be great place to live. The land was beautiful. It looked like all the western movies I'd watched as a kid. Little did I know, that's where they were made! Well, many years later, here I am in Albuquerque and it is truly a great place to live. The Renault is long gone, replaced by two Corvairs. When I moved to Albuquerque, it took a semi-trailer and a motorcycle trailer to move everything. The road is now I-40 but much of Old 66 is still there, off to the side. I digress, but the point is that this road has memories for many, many people who will be celebrating those memories this weekend. Enjoy the festivities! A week ago, my son and I helped with the Route 66 cleanup that Ollie Scheflow organizes for us. This time the trash was the least amount I have seen since I've been helping clean. Maybe people are becoming more litter conscious, you think? Well, maybe not, just an aberration I guess. A pleasant thing happened while we were working, a bike rider thanked us, as he passed by, for the work we were doing. See, the work we do on this road is appreciated! We had a great participation this time, which resulted in the whole exercise taking only about an hour. Thanks to all those who participated. I have been on the road a lot this year, mostly for business, but I write this piece on my parent's computer from their home in Virginia. I am here for my mother's 80th birthday celebration. I want to thank all those who have helped me keep this club rolling along in my absence. Robert Gold has enthusiastically stepped in for me at meetings when I can't make it. Others work hard to plan and execute our events that we all enjoy. I want to again thank everyone who has helped keep our club the most fun car club in New Mexico. -- Hurley Wilvert, President =-=-= * * * * * * * FOR SALE, TRADE OR WANTED * * * * * * WANTED: Any early air conditioning parts. Call Carl Johnson 344-3178 FOR SALE: 1962 Greenbrier van. $900. Call Mike Stickler 344-2039 Good condition, but won't start. Also, lots of good used parts such as doors and hoods are available. FOR SALE: 1965 Corsa Convertible -- $600 Call Bill Reider 299-4597 Body only - drive train still in car. No heads on engine block. It has a 140 block. FOR SALE: 1960 Monza coupe -- $700 Call Bill Reider 299-4597 Needs ground up restoration. Automatic, Radio, gas heater. Powder coated engine shrouding. Full set of 60 Monza wheel covers. Extra front and rear suspension. Less that 27,000 miles. Included: Assembly & Shop Manuals for the 1960 Corvair. Extra gas heater parts. FOR SALE: 1966-67 Corvair -- $1300 Call Bill Reider 299-4597 Automatic recently rebuilt. 110 engine with recent valve job. New black carpet needs to be installed. New black headliner to be installed. New black rear package area carpet needs to be installed. New black dash pad. White bucket seats in good shape, rear seats need recovering. Dual master cylinder installed. Needs battery & paint. Body straight. FREE! Tires & Wheels FREE! Call Ruth 821-1506 C-78-13 White Cruise Master 4-ply 6.50-13 tubeless CNM ADS ARE FREE TO CNM MEMBERS, $5.00 TO NON-CNM MEMBERS =-=-= SEVEN YEARS AGO IN C.N.M. Jim Pittman August 1994 Volume 20 Number 8 The cover showed the Quarai church ruins with a Greenbrier parked out front, an early attempt at scanning a photograph and printing it as a computer graphic. President Del ran the meeting, Steve Schulthis and Bill Palmer were guests, and treasurer Will said our funds totaled to $823. Bill Reider reported on the Car Council; the Museum car show went well; plans were underway for a picnic and a swap meet. Rita Gongora told us her plans for a trip to Rancho de las Golondrinas in October. We signed up for an econo-run in the Manzanos. The throttle linkage tech session at the Pleaus' was a big success and Del's car is running much better now. Five CNM cars showed up at the Santa Fe Plaza Car Show on July 4th. Compliment: the Porta-Potties smelled better this year. Complaint: having to get up at O-Dark-Hundred to make the drive up to Santa Fe. Dell's President's Letter announced steps taken by the board to raise money: having raffles, having an auction, charging for the annual Villanueva campout. Mike Stickler reported on our econorun. Seventeen CNMers showed up and the best overall was a Pleau 1963 coupe with 34.17 MPG. Steve Gongora reported on a Galles Chevrolet car show on a hot June 18th. Dennis Pleau told us how to disassemble, clean, repair and re-assemble our windshield wiper switches. Other tech tips told what to do if your engine seemed crooked (look for a broken bolt holding the transmission to the cross member) and how to free up your emergency brake cables (squirt 'em with WD-40 to clean) and how to just look over all the various parts under your car while you are under there fixing that bad bolt (look for dangling wires, frayed cables, loose or badly adjusted thermostat doors, cracked rubber boots, cracked or leaking hoses or fittings, etc). Finally, there was a mail-in survey form so the management could learn more about our membership. Fourteen Years Ago The August 1987 cover showed an early convertible and announced that our August meeting would be at The Rafters, a restaurant in Santa Fe on a Sunday afternoon. President Clayborne ran the meeting. We had only $664 to spend, but that was real money back then. Car Council business: the swap meet was being planned; there was talk about getting the city to finance a car museum. Clayborne told us about eating ice cream and seeing the Albertosaurus and two restored antique fire trucks at the Natural History Museum. The arrivals of future Corvair drivers Megan Jennifer Lawless (6 June 1987) and Emily Rose Gongora (9 July 1987) were announced. Mark Morgan had his Billiken cartoon character demonstrate four-wheel steering on a Corvair with unexpected results. Bill Reider's CARE AND FEEDING column discussed carburetor jet size and power and economy, and listed part numbers for outside mirrors. Finally, do you want a report on the Corvair's 1972 exoneration by the Department of Transportation? It's on the last page of this issue, as a reprint of a 1980 MOTOR TREND article. Yes, Ralph's rants were refuted, item by item, after tests by the DOT. Twenty-one Years Ago The August 1980 cover featured a cute runabout with a rumble seat. My dad had one of those in his courting days. Your editor begged the membership for articles, jokes, photos, drawings, or any other grist for the newsletter mill. President Reider ran the meeting; we were in the dark as to our finances. Members were planning to head for Moriarty to help with their Fourth of July parade. Francis mentioned a new body shop: the Car & Truck Factory, owner: Bob Phillips. Sylvan told us about the need for the right balance of tire pressures for front and rear tires. President Bill talked on tire choices for our Corvairs. A tech tip said to soak a new pilot bushing in motor oil for a couple hours before installation. Finally, your editor provided a short story about a rich executive's plans to re-manufacture 1964 Spyders -- in the twenty-first century. Hey -- that could be today! =-=-= ============================================================================ C O R V A I R S o f N E W M E X I C O C O M I N G E V E N T S ============================================================================ | | | | | A u g u s t | S e p t e m b e r | O c t o b e r | | | | | | : : : 1 2 3 4 | : : : : : : 1 | : 1 2 3 4 5 6 | | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | | 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 | 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | | 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 | 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 | 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | | 26 27 28 29 30 31 : | 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 | 28 29 30 31 : : : | | : : : : : : : | 30 : : : : : : | : : : : : : : | ============================================================================ Wed 1st Aug 7:30 PM Regular Meeting - GALLES CHEVROLET 1601 Lomas NE Sat-Sun 11-12 August Campout in the Pecos - Ruth Boydston's Sat 11th Aug 1:00 PM CNM Ladies - TBA Wed 15th Aug 5:00 PM Board Meeting - House of Covers Fri 24th Aug 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Wed 5th Sep 7:30 PM Regular Meeting - GALLES CHEVROLET 1601 Lomas NE Sat 8th Sep 1:00 PM CNM Ladies - TBA Wed 19th Sep 5:00 PM Board Meeting - House of Covers Fri 21st Sep 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Sun 23rd Sep ....... State Fair Car Show - meet: Furr's Central & San Pedro Wed 3rd Oct 7:30 PM Regular Meeting - GALLES CHEVROLET 1601 Lomas NE Sat 13th Oct 11:00 AM CNM Ladies - TBA Wed 17th Oct 5:00 PM Board Meeting - House of Covers Fri 26th Oct 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Sun 2nd Dec 11:00 AM Christmas Dinner - Kirtland AFB - Rita Gongora =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= =-=-= AUGUST MEETING TALK Robert Gold For a number of years CNM members have been treated to the continuing saga of the goings on of the Council of Car Clubs. Bill Reider and most recently Mark Martinek have done a fine job in representing our club at the Council meetings. For the August 1 meeting of the Corvair Club we will get a chance to hear from a representative of the Council of Car Clubs. The goal is to inhance our knowledge of the workings of the Council and encourage our continued participation in their events. I know I've enjoyed the Albuquerque Museum show. I wonder sometimes what I enjoy more - hearing the stories of the planning of the show or actually participating in the event. Anyway, I would encourage you to attend the meeting and give a warm welcome to our speaker. Many thanks to Mark Martinek for arranging for this talk. =-=-= CAMPOUT IN THE PECOS Debbie Deck From: debbie k deck Well, hope all you 'Vair campers are ready for our annual Pecos campout. Ruth guarantees us a great time. If you've never been up to her cabin, you're in for a treat. Way up in the mountains, surrounded by nature, and a bunch of 'Vair campers ready to play games, eat, have a campfire and great fellowship. This year, we are going to have a huge corn roast, complete with corn (of course), potatoes, carrots, cabbage, onions and your contribution - sausage or hot dogs. There will be plenty of the main course, all cooked together. This feast will be on Saturday evening, after all the day's activities are finished. We will eat about 5:00 p.m. Your contributions for this feast will be -------- sausage or hot dogs for your family, silverware, beverages and a dish to share. Ruth has planned plenty of desserts, so try new things and bring them up to the campout. This year's activities will be different - so be prepared for anything. Who knows what the gremlins will think of this time. Even if you are not a camper, come on up and join us anyway on Saturday. Events will run any time after lunch, for those late sleepers. After dinner, there will hopefully be a campfire. Make pies, somores or just roast marshmallows. We all had a great time last year, and we will try to make it better this year. Here is a map to Ruth's cabin. If you follow it exactly, you will have no problems. Please call Debbie Deck at 836-4845 or e mail at albdeck@juno.com, so we can make final plans for the dinner and activities. Don't worry, there are no lions, tigers or bears up there, just one big green turtle. Come on up and share the weekend or the day, and have a great time. Hope to see you there -- Debbie Deck To get to Ruth Boydston's cabin in the Pecos: ==> Go north on I-25 from Albuquerque toward Santa Fe and continue east on I-25 toward Las Vegas. ==> Take Exit 299 at Glorieta onto NM 50. Turn right (east) toward Pecos. ==> At Pecos, turn left (north) onto NM 63 toward Cowles. ==> Before Cowles, look for a sign to Iron Gate to turn right onto Forest Road 223. It's a dirt road and it's up hill. ==> Take the first left turn. =-=-= OIL FILLER CAP TIP REVISITED -- ( F Y I Del Patten ) Anonymous Assuming that the brass plate in the cap has been stretched back to its original spring height as mentioned in a previous Tech Tip and that the cap took leave of absence from the filler tube due to failure to replace it [one of the first signs of old age] to its assigned position, I offer a possible solution. Many years ago when our very young offspring were losing their mittens [what are those?] we tied a string to the mittens and ran the string through the sleeves of the coat. Using this same principle, we can convert it to our present day Hi-Tech world by soldering a small length of chain or cable to the cap at one end and the fill pipe at the other end. This will eliminate possibly having to dive into the oil filled netherworld of the bottom skid plate to retrieve said cap, unless you drilled four 1/4" holes in the front of the skid plate for oil drainage purposes. On a more serious note, regarding your signature to the article. After much soul searching and reflection, a decision was made not to accuse you of plagiarism due to your misspelling. I call your attention to the CORRECT spelling of my signature at the end of this article. If, however you have chosen your signature as a new "numb- d- plum" of your own, this would be perfectly agreeable with me. NOTE: American Heritage Dictionary Third Edition definition of plum. #6 - An especially desirable position, such as under your Greenbrier checking the yellow wire to the starter solenoid or looking for the starter itself? Keep up the good work earning nominations for DOMC and keep track of other nominees and members of the DUMMY OF THE MONTH CLUB. For new members (and those who would rather forget) the DOMC is for Corvair owners who have worked on their cars and repeatedly made the same mistake or after reflection knew that the repair or procedure was not correct. In summation, let me say that some of the above is stated for educational purposes and as for the rest, the bulge in my cheek still "ain't a chaw of terbacky." A - NONY - Mousse Disclaimer. Errors of any kind in the above article shall be credited to the COMPUTER and not to the author. =-=-= RESTORING A MONZA Richard Finch, SAE CNM Member, Tularosa,NM Carefully restoring a good Corvair can be both satisfying and relaxing. Last week I restored the brake pedal, bracket and master cylinder bracket for our 1964 Monza Convertible that we purchased from Dennis and Debbie Pleau last August. The week before, I finished restoring the air conditioner evaporator and the air conditioner dash outlet. We are converting the Monza to part factory air and part aftermarket air. When we bought the Monza, it had a factory color yellow paint job and black interior and black top. It also had a 3-speed stick shift and part of a set of factory wire wheel covers. In the early 1960's I bought two new Corvairs that were yellow, one with a green cloth interior and a 1965 Corsa with a black interior. Since my tastes have changed over the years, we are changing our Monza convert to GM white exterior with a bright red interior and white top. Since we have driven our 1991 Cavalier V-6 for 10 years and 140,000 miles, we decided to buy a set of very comfortable Chevy Cavalier front bucket seats and cover them with 1964 Monza pattern vinyl covers to put in the Monza. We are also changing to a powerglide tranny, power windows, power door locks, remote locking doors and a burglar alarm. We are also installing rear seat speakers and a pull-out stereo receiver. Early last year, at the Albuquerque CNM event, Gayle and I decided that we needed only three land transportation vehicles and that those three vehicles should be Corvair based. So this 1964 Monza would replace our 1991 Cavalier, and the Monza would be completely re-built to last us 25 to 30 more years. My 1965 Corvair 4-door has nearly 300,000 miles on it and it is our most dependable transportation. Our 1969 110hp Ultra Van will be our vacation vehicle. It only had 17,400 miles on it when we bought it three years ago. My 4-door Corvair will be our alternate daily transportation car. So, for the Monza, we have been buying new parts with every pay check since we first towed the car home. And Ralphie (N.) was partly right when he told Congress that he had proof that it cost more to buy a car in pieces than it cost for the whole car in a dealer showroom! Once again Ralph thought that he had discovered a consumer fraud. But as our checkbook shows, we have likely spent more money on restoration parts for the Monza than the Monza cost when it sold new in 1964. We have bought complete new suspension and steering parts including new gas shocks. We have also bought a complete new red interior. At the GWFBT&SM in Palm Springs last November, we bought a lot of good used tail lights, rear grille, alternator, starter, etc. etc. Next month I hope to buy the new convertible top. I have a lot of NOS GM parts for the car too. Back in the early and mid-1970's, I was working a lot of overtime at Ted Smith Aerostar and Piper Aircraft. So, once a month I would go down to the local Chevy dealer and buy all of his return Corvair parts at very good prices. When I got the parts home, i would always write the price and date on the parts boxes. It sure is fun to see new blower bearings marked $ 9.73 and new head gasket sets marked $ 3.43. I have complete sets of rod bolts marked $ 3.65 and now they are selling for $ 100.00 ! The only problem is that things like head gasket sets with neoprene O-rings are nearly worthless with the advent of Viton O-rings. One big purchase we have made was to order a complete change-over kit from Southwest Corvair Parts in Phoenix, AZ to change the car to powerglide. I remember the day when my 4-door had a powerglide in it and I changed it to a 4-speed for autocrossing. Now, I want powerglide for lazy driving around town. We have averaged 14,000 miles a year on our Cavalier and I would expect us to put about that many miles on the Monza per year when it is completed. If my restoration work schedule holds, we plan to drive the Monza to Albuquerque in December 2001 for the annual CNM Christmas luncheon at the Air Force Base O-Club. We will keep you informed of our restoration progress. Richard and Gayle Finch Tularosa, NM =-=-= OLD ROUTE 66 CLEANUP, 14 JULY 2001 Ollie Scheflow We started at 8:00 AM and it was not too hot as it would get later. We got about 22 bags of trash. I believe four people showed up who didn't sign up at the meeting. It was a fun morning, no rain, no mud, not really a whole lot of trash this time. Thanks to those who came: Larry Blair, Robert Gold, Glen & Dana Gollrad (they came all the way down from Santa Fe), Steve Gongora, Dave Huntoon, Mark Martinek, Del Patten, Jim Pittman, Chuck & Julie Vertrees, Hurley Wilvert & son, and Ollie Scheflow. We'll schedule the next one for October or November and let's hope we have another good turnout and fun trash pickin' day. =-=-= ANOTHER VALVE ADJUSTMENT TECH TIP David Hebert (reported by Seth Emerson) From: Sethracer@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:34:29 EDT To: (virtualvairs@skiblack.com) I just read an interesting tech tip on the "foolproof" adjustment of valves for the Corvair motor. If you believe in only adjusting them hot or running, delete this and go to the next E-mail! The author of the tech tip, David Hebert, grasped an interesting point. When the Corvair engine has either cylinder #1 or #2 at TDC, (when the mark is at 0 degrees, one or the other is at TDC) half of the valves can be adjusted. And it doesn't matter which half! David described his method this way: In direction of rotation, manually turn engine to 0 degrees, TDC, on either Cylinder #1 or #2. (The timing mark looks the same in either instance.) Removing spark plugs makes this much easier. Remove the Valve covers and loosen all valve adjustment nuts until each nut is flush with the top of its stud. Remove the distributor and pressurize the oil system with a drill motor and an oil pump priming rod - a stripped distributor, with the drive gear removed, works fine. Now tighten down each adjuster nut (all 12) until the pushrod is tight between your thumb and forefinger. Do not go past the point where this starts to happen. If you think you may have tightened too far, back off the nut, re-pressurize the oil system, and try again. Occasionally, rock the rocker arm back and forth to be sure it doesn't bind off center. After adjustment of all 12 valves in this manner, rotate the engine in its normal direction of rotation a full 360 degrees to the TDC of the opposite cylinder (#2 or #1). Pressurize the oil system. Readjust any loose rocker arms. There should be six of them this time. If there are more you may have leaky lifters. If you don't want to adjust valves again for a long time, now turn the adjust nuts one full turn tighter (no more) past this "zero lash" point. If you like to "spin" your engine and are concerned with valve float, tighten only 1/4 to 1/3 past "Zero Lash." Replace the distributor. The rotor should be 180 degrees from where it was when you removed the distributor. Replace the Valve covers, etc. You have now adjusted the valves without knowing which valve was which. Passed along by Seth Emerson (who never uses a full turn of preload, one quarter max!) ==================== This message was sent by the Corvair list, all copyrights are the property of the writer, please attribute properly. To unsubscribe, mailto: majordomo@skiblack.com with "unsubscribe virtualvairs" without the quotes) as the first line of the message. To post, mailto:virtualvairs@skiblack.com. For help, mailto:vv-help@skiblack.com. ==================== =-=-= Subject: Re: TURBO TALK (VV) From: BobHelt@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:57:28 EDT To: tonyu@roava.net, virtualvairs@skiblack.com Sender: owner-virtualvairs@skiblack.com In a message dated 4/22/01 10:08:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tonyu@roava.net writes: > Well.. for what it's worth, (and nobody seems to know exactly why) > the 1964 Spyder engine was still factory rated at 150 hp, same as > the earlier 145 ci turbo engine... even with the extra displacement. > Of course that's not likely to be correct. There are reasons why the 1964 turbo engine was still rated at 150 hp, same as the 1962-63 turbo engines. This is because horsepower ratings are always given as the maximum that the engine is capable of delivering. And since maximum horsepower (hp) is almost always developed at or near maximum rpm, you will find that the 1962-63 turbo engines were rated at 150 hp at 4400 rpm. The 1964 turbo engine was rated at 150 hp too, but at a lower rpm of 4000. But the real key to this rating of turbo engines is the fact that they develop TORQUE. Big torque, and at moderate rpms of 2500-3500 rpm. But little hp! By the time the rpm gets up to max, the torque has fallen way off. Thus, while the 1964 turbo engine developed more max torque than the 1962-63 engines, the torque fall off was similar, resulting in similar values of hp at the higher rpms. Remember that hp is not a directly measured dyno function. It is calculated from the measured values of rpm and corresponding torque. So rating horsepower in the turbo engine is somewhat of an anomaly compared to the NA engines. The turbo engine has about the same torque and hp as the NA engine at speeds from idle to about 2000rpm. From 2000 to about 3500 the turbo engine generates big big torque! (But not maximum hp.) At higher rpms, the turbo gets strangled by the induction system (in the Corvair) and the torque at rpms of about 4000-5000 is considerably less than at the moderate rpms. The hp has increased tho, because of the increase in rpms. This has resulted in slightly more torque for the 1964 than the 1962-63 turbo engines at these speeds. Thus the same hp rating, but at somewhat different rpms. -- Regards, Bob Helt =end=