The September 2009 Newsletter - Text Version Updated 24-Aug-2009 ==== Copyright (c) 2009 Corvairs of New Mexico ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SEPTEMBER 2009 / VOLUME 35 / NUMBER 9 / ISSUE #408 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EDITOR: Jim Pittman NEXT MEETING: Wednesday 2 September 2009 at 7:00 PM Highland Senior Center at 131 Monroe NE THIS MONTH: Dues Due, September ..................... Membership Committee Los Lunas Museum ........................... Pat & Vickie Hall August Meeting Minutes ........................ Chuck Vertrees Birthdays and Anniversaries ............... Sunshine Committee Missing a Meeting ................................... Pat Hall August Board Meeting Minutes ................ Charles Vertrees Summer Vacation is Over .............. President Mike Stickler Why No 50-MPG Cars? (review) ..................... Jim Pittman Can You Identify This Member? .................. Heula Pittman Calendar of Coming Events ................. Board of Directors My Corvair Story ................................. Vickie Hall State Fair Car Show Preview ...................... Robert Gold Rocky Mountain to Host 2011 CORSA Convention ..... Eric Shakel Pikes Peak President's Notes ................... Steve Goodman Corvair Preservation Foundation Online Web Site .... News Item Steering Box Rebuild TUNA ......................... Tarmo Sutt Old Route 66 Cleanup ......................... Oliver Scheflow Steering Box Update .............................. Bill Reider Christmas Contributions ........................ Heula Pittman For Sale, Trade or Wanted ........................... Everyone Seven, 14, 21, 28, 35 Years Ago ............... Club Historian COVER: A 1965 Monza, a near-by volcano, distant Sandia Mountain ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PRESIDENT: Mike Stickler 856-6993 sticorsa @ hotmail.com VICE-PRES: Pat Hall 620-5574 patandvickiehall @ q.com SECRETARY: Charles Vertrees 299-0744 vertrees @ swcp.com TREASURER: Robert Gold 268-6878 beisbol30 @ msn.com PROPERTIES: Ruth Boydston 821-1506 sg730 @ comcast.net CAR COUNCIL: Art Gold 620-7434 rollerart @ gmail.com MEMBERSHIP: David Huntoon 281-9616 corvair66 @ aol.com EMERITUS: Sylvan Zuercher 299-7577 flat6 @ hubwest.com EMERITUS: Wendell Walker 892-8471 defarge505 @ aol.com NEWSLETTER: Jim Pittman 275-2195 jimp @ unm.edu DUES: CNM: 12 months $25.00 or 26 months $ 50.00 CORSA: 12 months $38.00 or 26 months $ 76.00 BOTH: 12 months $63.00 or 26 months $126.00 NOTE: CORSA DUES GO UP AUGUST 1st 2009! See your CORSA Communique. CORSA's home page: http://www.corvair.org Steve Gongora's page: http://www.corvair.org/chapters/chapter871 CNM's newsletters: http://www.unm.edu/~jimp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DUES DUE DATES FOR SEPTEMBER 2009 == DUE LAST MONTH = INACTIVE 25-SEP-2009: 2009.08 Marci & Gary Calabrese 2008.08 2009.08 Russ McDuffie 2008.08 2009.08 Bob Philips 2007.07 == DUE NEXT MONTH = INACTIVE 25-OCT-2009: 2009.09 Kay & Tarmo Sutt 1976.07 == DUE OCTOBER = INACTIVE 25-NOV-2009: 2009.10 Debra & Jon Anderson 1992.10 2009.10 Mary Lou & Mark Martinek 1990.08 == DUE NOVEMBER = INACTIVE 25-DEC-2009: 2009.11 Linda & Dick Cochran 2006.09 2009.11 Pam & Charlie Mann 2008.11 == DUE DECEMBER = INACTIVE 25-JAN-2010: 2009.12 Kathy & Larry Blair 1985.11 2009.12 Diane & Robert Galli 2007.10 2009.12 David Huntoon 1994.11 2009.12 Walter Huntoon 1992.11 2009.12 Roger Pape 2002.12 == DUE FEB = INACTIVE 25-MAR-2010: 2010.02 Susanne & Larry Hickerson 2002.08 2010.02 Frank Stadler 1990.02 2010.02 Brenda & Mike Stickler 1976.07 2010.02 Julia & Chuck Vertrees 1983.05 2010.02 Wendell Walker 1989.01 == MEMBERSHIP EXPIRED = INACTIVE AS OF 25-AUG-2009: 2008.04 Florence & Bill Hector 2006.04 2008.10 Guadalupe & Jim Arellanes 2006.10 2008.10 Mary & Art Hurley 2007.10 2008.11 Nancy & Bernard Urbassik 2004.08 2009.02 Carl Johnson 1974.04 2009.03 Sally Williams 2003.09 2009.07 Jerry Goffe 1977.05 2009.07 Geoffrey Johnson 2002.03 If your membership is due or has expired, please send your Dues to: Robert Gold, CNM Treasurer, 1301 Valencia NE Albuquerque, NM 87110 Past due memberships will become inactive after a one-month grace period. The Club will mail in your National Dues when you renew, provided that you send us the renewal form from your CORSA Communique! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Los Lunas Museum Pat & Vickie Hall On August 15th, the Historical Society of Los Lunas celebrated Route 66 pre-1937 at the Los Lunas Museum of Heritage & Art, open to the public at 2pm and on into the evening. There were guest speakers talking about the history of Route 66 and author Richard Metzler was there for a book signing. The museum has quite a display of art. Check it out if you get a chance. Several pre-1937 cars were there. Pat and Chad Hunter were in our 1964 Spyder, Mark Jones in our 1964 Monza and Vickie and sister Sharon in our 1964 4-door. This was a small showing but very interesting. -- Vickie & Pat ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ August Meeting Notes Chuck Vertrees Surprisingly, the meeting was called to order at 19:06 on 8/5/09 at the print shop of Ray Trujillo. We need to thank Ray for making his facility available at the last minute. We didn't find out until we arrived that the Highland Senior Center where we usually meet was closed for cleaning. They just forgot to tell us. Even so, there were 19 members who managed to find their way to Ray's shop. President Mike Stickler mentioned the letter we had received from "Phoenix Charlie" and it was made available to anyone who wanted to read it. Vice President Pat Hall was not able to give his report at the start of the meeting because he got a call from Sylvan Zuercher and Dan Palmer, whose "new" 1965 Corvair had broken down on the way to the meeting. Three members including Pat went to help them. (Note: they got it running, the problem was a bad coil. Sylvan and Dan met us at the Route 66 Diner after the meeting.) Treasurer Robert Gold reported that CNM had $2,958.32 in the checking account and $1,144.72 in the GMAC account for a total of $4,103.04. He said that he had gotten the paperwork done at his credit union and had sent it to GMAC. He hoped that we would finally get the signature situation settled. Alan Gold was introduced. He was a member back in 1981 and has rejoined. I didn't get the relationship between him, Robert Gold and Art Gold other than he was another Gold. Perhaps he's Robert's brother? Art Gold reported that the Car Council had nothing new to report. The all clubs picnic is on August 9th and it will be the last time it will be held at Villanueva State Park. The big thing discussed was the annual Swap Meet at Los Lunas on September 25-26-27. CNM will volunteer to work the swap meet on Saturday the 26th, since Sunday the 27th is the State Fair car show. Robert said that since it is the 50th anniversary of the introduction of the Corvair we will have the first row at the State Fair. We need to have a great showing and we'd like to have a Corvair from every year at the show. Art said that the date for the Museum Car Show has not been set but assured us that there'd be no conflict with the Tri-State, now scheduled for May 21-22-23. He mentioned that the Car Council planned for the show's theme to be the fiftieth anniversary of the introduction of the American "compact" cars: Corvairs, Falcons, Valiants by GM, Ford and Chrysler. Jim Pittman, newsletter editor, mentioned that this is a short month so anything for the newsletter must be in the weekend after the board meeting, and the sooner the better. He also said that according to Rocky Mountain CORSA's August newsletter THE DENVAIR NEWS, the Denver club will sponsor the CORSA International Convention in 2011. Timothy Shortle of RMC went to the Jacksonville convention to present RMC's case to the CORSA Board and it was approved. The date has not been set yet. Because of the size of the Denver club they will be asking the Colorado Springs club for help. We might consider whether if possible some of us might be able to help in some way. Another thing Jim brought up for speculation was the apparent popularity and success of the "Cash for Clunkers" program and what it would actually do for overall national fuel use, for the economy, or for the health of the auto industry. By and large in the discussion, none of us had seen any information about how much energy savings this program is supposed to accomplish. Some of us wondered about the advantage of destroying well-working vehicles for a small increase in gas mileage. I hear that all the engines are being destroyed by pouring Sodium Silicate into them, but that body parts may be salvaged for reuse if needed. My feeling is that the increase in gas mileage has very little to do with it. The big thing is to help bail out the auto industry, which is now largely owned by the government, meaning us as far as taxes go. Heula Pittman said that she had checked with Lee Reider and Emma Rogers and that the Christmas charity this year would be "Safe House." They can use almost anything, but we should concentrate on items for children. We will hear more about this. Heula again said she'd be glad to take shopping money from anyone who did not want to do their own shopping. Upcoming attractions are the Old Route 66 cleanup at 8:00 AM on September 5th followed by a breakfast, probably at the Golden Corral on Central near Eubank. Also in September on the 12th and 13th is the Experimental Aircraft fly-in at the Moriarty airport. There is always a great collection of aircraft that are not usually seen and as in past years, there will probably be an informal car show as well. It is well worth going to see. Also in September is our big annual event, the State Fair car show on Sunday the 27th. It was suggested earlier that we might want to have an economy run in October. As rallymaster, I have started planning a route, and if enough members seem interested I will go ahead and get it ready. The economy run would last a couple of hours, would be mostly in the city and would end with a late lunch. Think about it. I will want to know if enough people are interested at the next meeting. We should thank Charlie and Pam Mann for their hospitality at their place in the North Valley. It was great to sit in the shade on a sunny summer day and visit after looking at their interesting collection of cars. The meeting ended with a very interesting and complete presentation by Bill Reider on rebuilding the Corvair steering box. Bill brought many parts for our inspection and his talk elicited many questions. Bill pointed out that not only do the steering parts wear, they can get contaminated with water and rust, leading to either sloppy or hard steering. The talk served as a lead-up to the TUNA on August 15th at Pat Hall's where we will rebuild a steering box. Members were told they could bring their own steering box to rebuild if it was already cleaned and ready to work on! After the presentation, many of us went to join Dan and Sylvan at the Route 66 Diner where we found food and more visiting. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HAPPY BIRTHDAY wishes to: Susanne Hickerson September 1 Jamie Anderson September 3 Gordon Johnson September 5 Janet Johnson September 7 Lori Nash September 8 Kevin Sullivan September 9 Curtis Shimp September 13 Connie McBreen September 15 Kelly Gold September 16 Dave Huntoon September 17 Julian Trujillo September 22 Josh McDuffie September 17 Four CNM couples celebrate wedding anniversaries this month: Brenda & Hurley Wilvert September 3 Emma & LeRoy Rogers September 4 Kathy & Larry Blair September 8 Kay & Tarmo Sutt September 24 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Missing a Meeting Pat Hall Well, I went to the August meeting, but I missed the meeting. If I need a good excuse to miss a meeting, I have one. About ten minutes before the meeting began, I received a phone call from Dan Palmer. Cell phones are useful at times! Dan said he was driving his "new" 1965 Corvair Monza and had just picked up Sylvan Zuercher. They were on their way to the meeting, Dan said, and the car just suddenly spit-spat-sputtered and died. So, Dan gave me a call. Off to the rescue went Mark Jones, Chad Hunter and I, in Mark's brand-X vehicle. We found Dan and Sylvan right where they said they were, but they had already diagnosed the problem as a defective coil. So, a bad coil was the reason five people missed the August meeting. Sylvan was pretty sure he knew from memory the part number for the correct coil, and since he had his copy of "The Care and Feeding of Your Corvair" book with him he was able to verify the number. As he said about his memory, "Trust, but verify!" The car happened to quit only about three blocks away from an auto parts store. Mark took Dan for a ride in his hot rod Dodge to go to the parts store. When they returned with a new coil, we installed it and the car started and ran with no further problem. We all drove to the meeting place. We could see through the window that the meeting was over, and we didn't want to interrupt Bill in the middle of his tech talk, so we just went on over to the 66 Diner. Eventually some folks came from the meeting and joined us at the diner. We had a lively discussion about this latest Corvair problem! There is more to the story of Dan's "new" red 1965 Monza! You'll have to get him to tell how he bid for it on e-bay, how he missed the bid but was offered the car anyway, how he drove to San Diego with a trailer to pick up the car, how the car and a slew of parts turned out to be too heavy for the trailer, and how Dan decided to drive the Monza home. You can ask Carolyn to tell how she unexpectedly found herself driving the Toyota and trailer back to New Mexico, trying to keep up with Dan in the Monza! They both survived the trip and only had to make a few unscheduled stops to get parts for the Corvair. Dan has been doing a lot of work on this car and has more to do. He wants to re-pack the rear wheel bearings and maybe he'll be installing new wiring harnesses. Maybe he will tell us about some of this work. Here's a thought: maybe we could get two or three club TUNAs out of this car! How about it, Dan. Now, for the rest of the story. For those who don't know, when we arrived at our regular "Senior Center" meeting place we couldn't get in! They were cleaning the place and none of us knew until we got there. Fortunately, Ray Trujillo came to our rescue by inviting us to meet at his place of business (where we have our board meetings) which is only a few blocks away. We were able to get tables and chairs arranged at Ray's place before 7 PM and that was when I got the fateful cell phone call from Dan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ August Board Meeting Chuck Vertrees The meeting was called to order at 17:10 at Ray Trujillo's print shop on 8/19/09. Present were Robert Gold, Jim & Heula Pittman, Pat & Vickie Hall, Mike & Brenda Stickler, Ray Trujillo, Dave Huntoon, and Chuck & Julia Vertrees. Mike said that we should thank Pat for the TUNA on rebuilding steering boxes. Bill Reider will probably have more information soon. Robert said that he was not so interested in the mechanical work we do at TUNAs but he had a great time just wandering around Pat and Vickie's, looking at all of the cars they have. It was just a great place to hang out. All CNM members note, you don't have to be specifically interested in a TUNA project to still have a good time and fellowship. Robert also said that his brother Alan, who is has joined CNM, used to work for GM in a transmission plant and could give us a presentation on the Powerglide transmission. Robert presented the treasurer's report showing that CNM had $3,097.58 in the checking account and $1,146.98 in the GMAC account for a total of $4,244.56. We now have a new supply of name badges and they can be issued to new members, spouses and family when needed. Jim Pittman said he had received a request for advertising a Loadside, an Avanti and some Mustang parts. The request was from Larry Lite who was the son of a past member. The cars will be advertised in the newsletter. Pictures and information were circulated. Jim also said that the coming newsletter will be a big one. Anything to be included must be in his hands by Friday the 21st. Dave said that he had not heard more on any possible new members. Pat said that he had been talking to a gentleman who has a 1964 Spyder that he is trying to get running. He has gotten some parts from Pat who has given him applications for both CNM and CORSA. He seems really interested in joining the club. There was no Car Council report but Dave said that he had gone to the Car Council picnic. There were several other CNM members there. There were about 60 or 70 cars and about 100 to 120 people. Heula said that she has talked to Lee Reider and that the charity which CNM will sponsor this Christmas is "The Safe House." This is a place which maintains safe houses an unknown locations to shelter people who are getting away from an abusive situation. Most arrive with only the clothes on their backs. They need clothing of all kinds, both for adults and children, men and women. Toys for children are needed, but not any stuffed toys. They especially need underwear. Heula said also that her committee has been sending out thank you notes to those who have helped CNM in various projects. Upcoming projects start with the need for nominations for candidates for office for the coming year. These need to be determined by the September meeting so that they may be voted on at the October meeting. It was stated that the Vice-President, Treasurer and Secretary have all agreed to stay on for another year, should the membership agree. So, we'll need at least one candidate for President. Mike implied that he'd run for a third term as President, but that Brenda has vetoed the idea. Sylvan Zuercher says that he has some possible candidates that he will contact. Also, your Treasurer and Secretary said that if anyone would like to run against them that would be great. Whether there will be a September 5th breakfast will be determined at the September meeting. September 27th is the State Fair Car Show. We must have a good showing. See Robert's article in the newsletter about when and where we will meet. Answer: same time and place as last year. Dave will see that the club banner will be present. Dave said that some announcement should be made of the fact that October 2nd 1959 was the date of the first showing of the Corvair in dealers' show rooms -- 50 years ago! September the 26th is one of the dates for the Car Council Swap Meet and CNM will provide about four workers for the meet. If you want to help, contact Robert. There are many other events listed in the CNM newsletter and also on the Car Council web page. It had been suggested that CNM have an economy run in October. Your secretary has a run in the planning stage. If there are enough people (five or more cars) interested then I will go ahead and set it up. We will see at the September meeting if there is interest. It was brought up whether we wanted to have some kind of a fund raiser in November as we have had in the past. That is still open if anyone has a suggestion. Our pot luck / auctions have been popular. Do we want one this year? Having another scrap recycling collection was brought up. This would not be until spring and would be a one-time collection rather that a small dribble of items over several meetings. Maybe people could take their scrap items to Pat's place during a TUNA. The International CORSA Convention will be sponsored by the Denver club in 2011. CNM members should be thinking of ways we can assist them. Dave mentioned that in 2011 it would be the turn of the Denver club to be responsible for the Tri-State. Mike suggested that CNM could swap with them and take the Tri-State out of turn. This has happened in the past. Heula told us that it was about time for CNM to get our newsletter in the running for "Best Newsletter" with CORSA again. This may entail a lot of work and expense. It was voted and passed that Heula and anyone that she needed to help will work on this and that CNM would cover any expense for color work. Jim says we already send newsletters to CORSA every month so we should not need to do anything more. But he was over-ruled because CORSA's rules say we should "submit" newsletters between August 2009 and February 2010. We will do that. The meeting was adjourned at 18:10. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Summer Vacation Is Over Mike Stickler The kids are headed back to school and the first hint that Fall is coming was confirmed when I spotted a small flock of geese flying overhead. This reminds me of the years of Summer vacation as a youth. No matter how many things were done during the Summer break, there was always a sense of regret that it wasn't enough. As the first day of school loomed closer, a final flurry of activity would be attempted to make the vacation seem worthwhile. The Greenbrier rebuild is suffering the same fate. Engine parts are still scattered around the shop and not enough has been done!!! The State Fair car show is about one month away and I hope a final flurry of activity will complete it in time. Robert Gold has done a terrific job of directing the annual State Fair car show. As you may know, this year is the 50th Anniversary of the Corvair's introduction. To celebrate that event Robert would like to assemble a great variety of Corvairs at the State Fair to include all years and models. I do encourage all of us to work hard to help Robert reach that goal. Here's to getting our collector Corvairs to the State Fair Show! Happy Corvairing! -- Mike P.S. -- Brenda says she does not need an "article" this month... but just a blurb that the Tri-State Booklet is still in progress and she's waiting on a few more write-ups from the Taos Tri-State Leadership Team. So, if you can do a write-up, get it to her! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why No 50-MPG Cars? Review by Jim Pittman REFERENCE: http://www.newsweek.com/id/130439 At its web page Newsweek recently had an article titled "Miles to Go -- Why automakers don't sell a car that gets 50 mpg." If we don't know where we are with automobiles in this country in August 2009, this article tries to cast some light. Those of us in the Corvair Hobby either realize certain facts, or we choose to ignore them, or we are able to work around them: Corvairs are definitely not modern, safe, economical cars. Yes, compared to their sister full-size Chevrolets from 1960-69 they were more fun, had better handling, were cheaper to buy and were more economical, but time has marched on. Corvairs have about as much similarity to modern cars as a Friden desktop calculator would have to a sleek Sony Vaio laptop PC. A few of us are still able to own a Corvair as a daily driver, but many more of us own, and still occasionally drive, a Corvair for sentimental reasons, or for its own particular -- if illogical -- characteristics. I bought my first Corvair in 1966, not on a whim, but after serious thought. I wanted a reliable "sports car" that I could drive anywhere in the country and that could survive at least four years in Alaska. A new 122 Volvo or a new 1966 Valiant would have suited. But I had several friends who loved their 1964 Spyders. No antifreeze! The American Porsche! I ordered a turbocharged Corsa coupe. When I picked up my new Corvair I felt my judgement was vindicated: the car rode better, was quieter, handled well, got better gas mileage and had far more room than my 1965 Austin-Healey 3000. As an American-made Chevrolet it should be much more reliable and much easier to maintain than my British sports cars had been. Six years later the Corsa and I were in Albuquerque and I wanted a "sporty" second car. I went looking for a used MG or Triumph roadster but ended up buying a 1965 Corsa convertible with 140. For several years I was content to keep my original 1966 Corvair while buying and selling several other "second car" Corvairs. I gave no thought to buying a new car. None made in the USA seemed "better" than my Corvair, and any foreign sports cars would have cost far too much. It was not until late 1989 that I felt compelled to buy a more modern car to supplement (not replace) my original Corvair. I still own that car, a 1990 Honda Civic. It was better than my Corvair in that it was new, it had air conditioning, a five-speed, disk brakes and fuel injection, and it ran like a fine watch. It has proved remarkably economical and trouble-free. And it still runs almost like new. Its gas mileage? A nineteen-year average of 34.7 MPG, with occasional fill-ups in the 45-MPG range. My best Corvair fill-ups approached 30-MPG only when driven very carefully in economy runs. Today my one remaining Corvair has all the features that attracted me to Corvairs back in 1966, except for the turbocharged engine. It is simple, reliable, has plenty of room, handles okay, has distinctive timeless styling and goes fast enough for me. What it definitely does not have is electronic fuel control, electronic braking control, electronic stability control, fuel vapor recirculation, a quiet ride, air bags -- and good gas mileage. But Newsweek's article is talking about "new" cars and why it is that as of July 2009 we can't buy an average, middle-of-the-road new car that gets better than 50 miles per gallon. They see three factors: Cost, Drive quality and Safety. Newsweek says Ford recently did a computer simulation on how they could make a Ford Focus that would get 50 MPG. Ford took out most of the steel and substituted aluminum. The weight savings allowed the engine to be much smaller while keeping the car's performance at the same level. Result: Yes, the car would be as safe as, and would perform with, a regular Ford Focus. But your Ford dealer would have to charge you $50,000 for it. All that aluminum and high-tech engine wizardry are expensive. Automakers say for better fuel economy they would like to reduce weight in their cars. But doing so would conflict with our perceived need for more safety features. In the 1980s, the Honda CRX-HF and the Geo Metro each got more than 50 MPG. But they didn't have airbags or steel beam crash protection in their doors. These days, cars come with with six air bags, steel safety cages and electronic stability control. Cars are much safer--but they are much heavier. If we make cars as safe as possible, that requires extra weight that works against fuel efficiency. Can we get better fuel efficiency with alternate power plants? Fuel cells quietly and efficiently convert hydrogen to electricity in experimental cars. The problem: there's no infrastructure to produce, transport, store and dispense hydrogen today. The gasoline/electric hybrid seems to be a mature technology and Toyota would be happy to sell you a third generation Prius hybrid today. Presumably it incorporates all the advances they learned about in the first two generations. But the Prius is not exactly a high-performance car. It's not much fun to drive. Its price is, shall we say, premium. And its EPA estimate hovers around 50 MPG. What about the brand-new Honda Insight hybrid? It costs slightly less than the current Prius. It has a somewhat lower EPA mileage rating: 43 MPG. It's reported to be sluggish and noisy to drive, not really much fun. A comparison with the new Ford Fusion hybrid gave higher marks to the Fusion. But that's a $27,000 car, and it's still below the 50 MPG cutoff. How about vehicles like the new "Smart" car? Well, it is fairly expensive but it gets great gas mileage. But for most people the problem is that a Smart car is tiny and it's a dog. "While it's certainly cute, its puny 70-horsepower engine and slow-shifting transmissions made me feel like Fred Flintstone could outrun me." Americans are used to bigger cars with greater performance and "Going zero to 60 in 15 seconds doesn't fit the average American consumer's idea of mobility today." Maybe you are interested in the latest big headline from our own car company, "Government Motors" and you would like to buy (or lease) a Chevrolet Volt. Maybe you do. I don't think I'm ready. I'd have to pay $30,000 for a new Volt. I'd have to LEASE the battery pack for maybe $200 per month. And this for a car that will perform like a Camaro -- for forty miles. After the battery runs down at forty miles out, the 1-litre engine will start up to recharge the battery so I can limp home. And, I'll have to recharge it by plugging it in overnight, sucking up electricity made by burning coal at a rate of ten cents per kilowatt-hour. No thank you. The more I read about the Volt, the less enthusiasm I have for it. But that's a story for another day. For years I have wondered when Corvairs were going to become like other "classic" cars--you'd want to own one and restore it and take it to the car shows, but you wouldn't really want to drive it. Well, as long as you can pay for gasoline; as long as you like driving a car that you, not a computer, control; as long as you think you can keep it running with Clark's parts and your own low-tech tools and skill; well, maybe there are years to go yet. Simplicity, mechanical knowledge, timeless styling and sentimental value will take some of us Corvair enthusiasts a long way... even if 50 miles per gallon is not something you'll ever see on a Corvair fill-up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can You Identify This Member? Heula Pittman Here is the ninth entry in our series "Can You Identify This Member?" for you to guess. As was the case in previous months, this photo was made long before the person featured ever gave a second's thought to Corvairs. If everyone will give me a photograph from an "earlier life" then this contest could go on for quite a while! For example, if I were to get thirteen photos in all, we could end the contest and award the prize at our 36th anniversary celebration in 2010. If I get more than thirteen photos then we could have a second cycle of prizes. So, give me your photos and keep your list up to date. You can e-mail digital photos at ( jimp @ unm.edu ) or you can give me your photographs, I will scan them and I will return them to you. Remember, this is a contest, so no fair sharing guesses with others! -- Thanks, Heula ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ============================================================================ C O R V A I R S o f N E W M E X I C O C O M I N G E V E N T S ============================================================================ | September 2009 | October 2009 | November 2009 | | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | | 1 2 3 4 5 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 | | 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 | | 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 | 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 | 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 | | 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 | 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 | | 27 28 29 30 | 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 | 29 30 | ============================================================================ Wed 2 Sep 7:00 PM Meeting: Highland Senior Center, 131 Monroe NE Wed 2 Sep 8:30 PM (time approx.) after our meeting, we go to the 66 Diner at 1405 Central NE (between University Blvd and I-25) Sat 5 Sep 9:30 AM CNM Breakfast - to be arranged - suggestions? Sat 12 Sep 6:00 PM Los Lunas "66 Cruise" starting at Bosque Farms Sat 12 Sep early! EAA Fly-In (and old car display) Moriarty Airport Sun 13 Sep early! EAA Fly-In (and old car display) Moriarty Airport Mon 14 Sep ....... Ultra Van meet in Santa Fe -- more information later Wed 16 Sep 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Fri 25 Sep -- According to Tom Martin, 50 years ago today the first Corvairs were displayed to the public at Galles-Grosbeck Chevrolet in Albuquerque. See "DARK INTRIGUE" in the January 1988 newsletter, reprinted January 2000. Fri 25 Sep 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Fri 25 Sep ....... NMCCC 31st Annual Swap Meet in Los Lunas Sat 26 Sep ....... NMCCC 31st Annual Swap Meet in Los Lunas Sun 27 Sep ....... NMCCC 31st Annual Swap Meet in Los Lunas Sun 27 Sep 7:00 AM Meet for the State Fair Car Show Fri 2 Oct 50th ANNIVERSARY OF INTRODUCTION OF CORVAIR AT CHEVROLET DEALERS Sat 3 Oct through Sun 11 Oct -- Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta Sun 4 Oct 9:00 AM Festival of Wheels Car Show / Balloon Ascension 7:00 AM Are Corvairs going to meet and go in together? Wed 7 Oct 7:00 PM Meeting: Highland Senior Center, 131 Monroe NE This is election night to vote for our 2010 officers! Wed 7 Oct 8:30 PM (time approx.) after our meeting, we go to the 66 Diner at 1405 Central NE (between University Blvd and I-25) Sat 10 Oct 9:00 AM Our fourth "Old Route 66" cleanup of the year Sat 10 Oct 9:30 AM CNM Breakfast - to be arranged - suggestions? Sat 10 Oct 6:00 PM Los Lunas "66 Cruise" starting at Bosque Farms Sat 17 Oct 8:00 AM Car Show at a Park on Rio Grande Blvd near Los Ranchos Support Hydrocephalus Association. Contact Russ McDuffie Wed 21 Oct 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Sat xx Oct ....... Economy Run or Sports Car Rally? -- Watch This Space Fri 23 Oct 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Fri 23 Oct Great Western Fan Belt Toss & Swap Meet - Palm Springs, California Sat 24 Oct Great Western Fan Belt Toss & Swap Meet - Palm Springs, California Sun 25 Oct Great Western Fan Belt Toss & Swap Meet - Palm Springs, California Wed 4 Nov 7:00 PM Meeting: Highland Senior Center, 131 Monroe NE Wed 4 Nov 8:30 PM (time approx.) after our meeting, we go to the 66 Diner Wed 18 Nov 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Fri 20 Nov 9:00 PM Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman 2010: March CNM's 36th Anniversary Party - IKE MEISSNER AWARD 2010: Spring Pat Hall will conduct another metal recycle project as a fund raiser. Collect your scrap metal and save it for the collection. 2010: May 21-22-23 The 2010 Tri-State will be held in Canon City, Colorado. Sponsored by Pikes Peak Corvair Club, Colorado Springs, CO. More activities: New Mexico Council of Car Clubs: http://www.nmcarcouncil.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Corvair Story Vickie Hall Sitting on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Well, not really in the middle of nowhere but the feeling was there. I was in one of our 1964 Monzas on my way to Belen, the town just south of Los Lunas, when I felt the car's engine lunge. Then the generator/fan light came on. I pulled off to the side of the road and started looking around for a business that was open on Saturdays so that I could call Pat. I didn't have a cell phone -- maybe I should rethink that situation! After walking across four lanes of traffic, in the heat of the day, I found a phone. Pat told me to check the fan belt and sure enough it was broken. Now Pat's at home waiting for a Corvair customer, from out of town, to arrive so he tells me that he will be there as soon as possible. Not a major problem, I thought to myself, because we keep a spare fan belt in the engine compartment of all of our driveable cars. I opened the trunk lid to see what tools were there and I found NOTHING! Pat's in trouble now! Not that I could have changed the fan belt, but maybe someone else could have if tools had been available. That is, if anyone had stopped during the forty-five minutes that I was sitting on the side of the road. No, no one stopped. Pat finally came to my rescue. He made the comment that maybe I should learn how to fix it myself. I guess that isn't a bad idea, but in turn he had better make sure that all the correct tools are in each and every one of our driveable cars! -- Vickie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ State Fair Car Show Join in the Birthday Celebration! Robert Gold It's hard to believe, but this year the Corvair is experiencing the 50th anniversary of its introduction in 1959. The Corvair is truly a 1960s car, spanning the model years 1960 to 1969. This year is therefore your chance to join in the celebration of the birth of the Corvair. Let's begin the celebration in grand style for all of New Mexico at this year's State Fair Car Show. The 12th annual State Fair Car Show will take place on Sunday, September 27, 2009. That is last day of this year's fair. Sylvan Zuercher suggested that in order to make the celebration truly grand we ask CNMers to turn out and display a car for each year of Corvair production. For those of you who, like me, are statistically challenged that would mean a minimum of ten cars for this year's show. I know it will be hard to have each year represented, but if we can do it, it would make for a display to remember. To help me plan for the event I'm asking you to contact me early and let me know what car you can enter. Together we can make this the most unique display of cars ever by CNM. I know I can supply three of the years from my collection: 1961, 1962 and 1966. Let's see what you can do! We'll meet at the former Furr's Cafeteria parking lot on the southwest corner of Central and San Pedro SE at around 7:00 AM for group photos and we will leave around 7:15 to enter the Fairgrounds through gate 3. This is the fartherest gate to the south on San Pedro. We will be parking on Heritage Ave just south of the Manuel Lujan Building. Think of the show as a really convenient way to see this year's fair. You'll have parking right in the middle of the fairgrounds and you won't have to pay to get in! Show times are from 8:00 AM to approximately 3:30 PM. Ribbons will be awarded for three "best of" classes and seventeen novelty classes. This should assure that you'll be getting at least one ribbon to display to the world. As in the past I'll be asking those CNMers in attendance to do the judging. That way we'll all share in the joy of awarding the ribbons. You'll get to display your awards as soon as the judging is completed, which should be before lunch. If you have any questions call Robert or Anne Mae Gold in the evenings at 268-6878 or send email to: beisbol30@msn.com. We've had good support for this show in the past, so let's keep up the good work this year!! Let's make this year's show the most unique one ever. See you there. -- Robert Gold ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CORSA 2011: It's All Real! Rocky Mountain Corsa Hosts 2011 Corsa Convention By Eric Shakel Reference: Denvair News, August 2009, Page 4 Our own Timothy Shortle stood in front of the CORSA Board of Directors, and presented our case for hosting the 2011 International Convention right here on the Front Range. Tim, as the only RMC member who made the trip, was obviously up to the task as the Board accepted our offer. With the official acceptance, we can start to lay out the groundwork for a solid convention. The preferred hotel is the DoubleTree Denver Tech Center, and they were kind enough to lower their rooms to the CORSA-desired $99.00 rate. A former Hilton, the hotel was completely and extensively refurbished in late 2008. It's a first-class venue, only minutes from the RTD Light Rail Station. The grounds have a grassy park area and there are many shade trees. There's even a huge church complex next door with additional parking, much of it covered. Come to the RMC Meeting at the DoubleTree. You'll have a chance to check out the hotel very soon, as the DoubleTree staff has graciously offered to host our Friday, September 4th RMC meeting, normally held at Burt Chevrolet on South Broadway. We invite all interested RMC members to attend this special "convention kick-off" opportunity. Although still quite a way off, this will be the Club's first step toward a successful CORSA Convention in 2011. Don't miss it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ President's Notes By Steve Goodman Reference: The DRIPLINE - Pikes Peak Corvair Club, August 2009, Page 4 Kermit Shields and Paul Campbell are hard at work for next years' TRI-STATE CORVAIR MEET in Canon City. Their reports each month sound like it will be a fun weekend. Thank you both for your hard work. Meeting minutes report that the Tri-State hotel will be the Quality Inn where a hot breakfast will be provided, and dining will be at the Abbey Event Center. Tim Shortle, who lives in Durango, was the emissary from Rocky Mountain CORSA to the national convention in Jacksonville, Florida this month. He presented the bid for RMC to host the 2011 national convention in Denver. Sometime this year Eric Schakel, who is the newsletter editor for RMC and also the chairman of the 2011 convention, will attend a PPCC meeting and present some of his ideas of how PPCC can participate and help. I would also like to suggest that since only a few have attended a national convention, it might be a good idea to drive to Iowa for the 2010 CORSA convention and see how a convention is planned and executed. Iowa is not a bad drive from Colorado. I hope some of us can attend. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Corvair Preservation Foundation (CPF) is online with their "Corvair 50th Anniversary" website: http://pr.corvair.org/index.html The site will be continually updated throughout the 50th Anniversary Celebration, and is being provided primarily as a courtesy for media promotions and publication efforts associated with Corvair's 50th Anniversary. (Though, as a Corvair enthusiast, I found it to be a most interesting site for anyone interested in the car.) The site contains the following information: * CPF logo and Corvair 50th anniversary * All 50th anniversary CPF Press Releases * The complete series of 50th anniversary historical articles written by historian Dave Newell. Provided in both Microsoft Word and PDF formats for newsletter reformatting. * Rare Corvair photographs and artwork, many not seen in decades * A calendar listing of national Corvair club chapter events recognizing Corvair's 50th Anniversary Celebration * Hyperlinks to recommended Corvair information websites, and * Interesting how-to's and chatter by the CorvairKid aka Kent Sullivan. The coin commemorating the 50th anniversary of the introduction of the Corvair is also advertised on this site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steering Box Rebuild TUNA at Pat Hall's - Saturday August 15, 2009 Tarmo Sutt At the August CNM meeting Bill Reider demonstrated the different combinations of Corvair steering boxes and the parts for rebuilding them. This demo served as a "Part one" introduction to the TUNA scheduled for the following weekend. Part two of this topic was a TUNA held at Pat Hall's place in which Bill would do a reassembly demonstration of a steering box. I planned to attend, and my newly available option was to travel from Santa Fe to Los Lunas via the Rail Runner. Leaving Santa Fe on a train is a very new and different adventure, as formerly a Saturday morning car trip to Albuquerque had been the norm. This was the second time I traveled to our current Francis Boydston award winning CNM member's house to attend a Corvair event in this way. Maybe they don't have all the bugs out of the system yet, because on this trip the Rail Runner made an abrupt stop north of Bernalillo. The lights went out, the A/C turned off and everyone on board stopped talking, wondering what had happened. The crew did not tell us anything, but after 15 minutes or so, repairs apparently were made and we were on our way again. Overall we only arrived 30 minutes late. The TUNA had already started. Brenda and Vicky came to the station to get me. Thanks to them both! In Pat's shop a large group of people had gathered in a semi-circle around Bill Reider to watch his progress with the reassembly. Then, kind of like the train, the assembly came to a stop -- because Bill could not get the ball bearings to stay in place. The block seemed to have good wear surfaces but something about it was just not right. Different people pitched in to help, but the ball bearings would not stay in place. Pat had several other steering boxes on display to show different types of wear, so Bill took another one. Those parts had problems also. Finally all agreed there was no sense putting a box together with bad parts. Further discussion about worn parts and assembly followed, and Pat brought in more steering parts to show worn pitman arm bushings and other causes of steering problems. There was a lot of interest from the group and there were many questions and further mini-assembly demos. As people were leaving Pat's house we discovered a flat tire on Russ's black Corsa convertible. In replacing the flat with the spare we found a bad stud, so it got replaced. Then Ray's 1964 sedan's starter was making funny noises and the engine would not start. Of course Bill and Pat and I had to find out what was wrong with it. Out came the starter motor and inspection revealed one of the brushes had come out and scored the armature as it tried to spin around. So up on Pat's lift went Ray's car, and the starter got changed out for a rebuilt starter. As a result of this day, many of us went home to take another look at the steering boxes we had worked on or had fully rebuilt. I looked at mine. It doesn't turn smoothly. I also noticed the turns from lock to lock is only about 3-3/4 turns. Thinking I had done something really wrong in reassembly, I looked at the manuals again and was reminded the quick steering box makes about 3-3/4 turns instead of 5 turns. Could this be so? How could I not remember that this was a rare factory "quick steering" box? I was sure I had reassembled it correctly, but now I am intrigued! There are lessons here. One is that we should all take another look at what we have and never make assumptions. Another is, when a group of Corvair enthusiasts gather for a TUNA, we all have opportunities to learn not only the topic of the TUNA, but to fix things that may be going wrong with our cars. These are the lessons I learned from this TUNA. What a benefit to us all to be members of this club! -- Tarmo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Route 66 Clean-Up Ollie Scheflow The club held its third clean-up of 2009 on the 8th of August. We had beautiful weather and a light load of debris. A record number of workers allowed us to complete the task in an hour. Afterwards everyone went to the Golden Corral and enjoyed breakfast and conversation. Among other topics, we discussed these unusual items that we found: 1. A new swamp cooler pump still in its original box. Ray Trujillo found the pump and said that it had just a few scratches on the outside but otherwise it looked great. He took it home, hooked it up and sure enough, it worked perfectly! Yea! 2. A new one-dollar bill 3. A bra and G-String No one reported on finding the owner of the last two items. Those participating this month were: Robert & Javier Gold, Pat Hall, Chad Hunter, Lube Lubert, Dan Palmer, Mark Jones, Ray Trujillo, Ollie Scheflow and John Wiker. Thanks to all who participated and I hope to see you on October 10th for our last clean up of the year. Be sure to attend - You never know what "treasures" you might find among the debris scattered along Old Route 66! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steering Box Update Bill Reider For those of you who were at the last meeting and at the TUNA, you are aware of the problems that I ran into. My main problem was that I was trying to stand up to do the demo and did not have good control over the worm gear shaft. When putting the worm gear shaft into the ball nut, the teeth on the worm gear shaft should rest on the ends of the ball nut. You will then be able to put the bearings in with very little problem. We have two pictures, one showing the correct way the shaft should be in the ball nut and one that will cause you problems. GM had two different ball nuts, one longer than the other. I think that the longer one works better. At the September meeting, we will have two setups where you can try your hand at installing the bearings. See you at the September meeting -- Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christmas Contributions 2009 Heula Pittman For those of you who may not know ... We decided several years ago not to exchange Christmas presents among our members. Instead we would choose a worthy organization who was in need and contribute to it. Emma Rogers and Lee Reider have once again agreed to co-chair our Christmas contributions committee. They decided on the Safe House which houses women (sometimes men) and their children who are escaping domestic violence. This organization is in need of just about anything one would want to contribute. The one exception is stuffed toys. They DO NOT want any of these! They would like clothing for all ages of children and adults. They also need toiletries, school supplies, toys, books and games. Please start collecting these items and plan to take them to our Christmas party which will be held in December. Rita Gongora will give details such as location, date and time of the party as soon as they become available. If any member would like for me to shop for him or her, I will be glad to. I try to stretch our $$ dollars $$ as much as possible and purchase items that I think this group needs most. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ NOTE: Please let me know if any of these ads are obsolete and should be removed! NOTE: Newsletter Advertisements are FREE to CNM members & $5.00 to non-members. NOTE: Without your $5.00 payment, your ad won't be in the published newsletter. ================================================================================ FOR SALE: 1962 Corvair Loadside Pickup 110/ automatic. White, red interior. Owned for many years by Joe Lite of Rio Rancho. Asking $1,000.00 or best offer. Contact: Larry Lite in Albuquerque - 505-268-2557 FOR SALE: 1963 Studebaker Avanti 2-door Coupe. Gold with gold or tan interior. Eight cylinder, 289 HP. 97,533 miles. Owned by Joe Lite of Rio Rancho. Asking $5,200 or negotiable. Contact: Larry Lite in Albuquerque - 505-268-2557 FOR SALE: Many mid-1960s Mustang parts are available. Owned by Joe Lite, Rio Rancho. Need to sell all. Prices negotiable. Contact: Larry Lite in Albuquerque - 505-268-2557 FOR SALE: 1966 Corvair 500 4-door sedan. 3-speed, 95-HP. White, red interior. Rebuilt engine and suspension. Runs well, good paint, fairly original. Rust & damage free. $5,000. ............... Call Cary at 505-350-0483 FOR SALE: 1961 Corvair 700 Lakewood - no engine/tranny - nice clean car. Factory red & white paint. Rust in front floor board from rubber mats. $1,500 or best offer. Have title. ......... Call Cary at 505-350-0483 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SEVEN YEARS AGO -- Jim Pittman Seven Years Ago - September 2002 - Volume 28 - Number 9 - Issue 324 On the cover: a 1966 Corsa with two Hella driving lights, and a snapshot of Robert Gold and Hurley Wilvert at the Elk's Refuge picnic. New members were Larry & Susanne Hickerson and Jacob Schlessinger. At our August meeting Wendell reported a treasury balance of $5,144. Reports were made on a July Cruize on Central and a fun Car Council picnic. Plans were in progress for a Tri-State at Raton. Steve told us he had learned that Ed Black, our former sponsor, had died. Oliver showed slides made on his recent voyage around South America. Anne Mae reported on recent activities by the Corvair Ladies group. Mark Domzalski reported on his drive in the "P-F-Flyer" 1966 Corsa to Flagstaff for the CORSA convention. Part of his time there was replacing the fan bearing, an exciting task under the circumstances. Mark described the chore, as well as peripheral problems that made themselves known and had to be fixed, in an interesting story. Bet you never thought of all the problems that could arise when the bearing shaft (and bearing, and fan) works its way upward at highway speed? Fourteen Years Ago - September 1995 - Volume 21 - Number 9 - Issue 240 Our cover showed a Beechcraft automobile? Mark Morgan explained. Sylvan welcomed new member Erik Myhren who had just obtained a 1964 convertible. Guests were Don Smith and grandson Chris. Sylvan reminded us of next month's election and the need for volunteers. We had $940 to spend, $328 of which was ear-marked for convention expenses. The convention planning group was meeting monthly, the Monday after the club meeting. Bill Reider was working on a revision to his Care & Feeding booklet which has been selling well. The State Fair and the Car Council Swap Meet were on the same weekend and we weren't sure what to do about that. Sylvan said our annual report to CORSA steted we had 55 CNM members, eight of whom did not belong to CORSA; we needed to improve. Karen Souza reported on our third annual campout at Villanueva State Park. Families attending included Souza, Pleau, Vertrees, Scheflow, Reider, Domzalski and Jackson. There were also children and relatives and friends. Only one Corvair made the trip: a Rampside. Climbing to the top of the ridge, floating down the rust-colored Pecos, sitting around a campfire, eating good food, and much Corvair talk were some of the relaxing events. Everybody agreed we should do it again next year! Larry said we'd be having a talk on carburetors and one on tuning up your gas heater. Tech tips included dealing with early model door rust, the pros and cons of silicone brake fluid, watching out for flood-damaged new or used cars, how your hot-air heater works and some comments on what often happens to stolen cars. Twenty-one Years Ago September 1988 - Volume 14 - Number 9 - Issue 156 The cover picture of a pueblo reminded us of our tour to Salinas National Monument last month, organized by Dale Housley. We had five Corvairs and one Brand-X and we brought picnic lunches to Quarai and visited Gran Quivera. Our treasury held $675. Sylvan organized a group to go to Moriarty to escort the Dare Vair as part of its around-the-country tour. Bill Reider told of using 50 quarts of oil to get back from the CORSA convention in North Carolina. Tom Martin, in PTOM's PTEK PTIPS told some of the do's and dont's he learned during his years of adventures with Corvairs. We planned a future economy run to Las Vegas. Twenty-eight Years Ago - September 1981 - Volume 7 - Number 9 - Issue 72 The friendly CNM dragon hitched a ride to Denver for the CORSA convention, one of the best ever. We sold CNM license plates for $2.75. Bill Reider proposed that CNM should be incorporated. We saw films comparing the 1965 Mustang and the 1966 Corvette to the Corvair. LeRoy Rogers and Sylvan Zuercher contributed articles on CORSA's Denver convention. Our recent econo-run to the Very Large Array near Magdalena was a big success. Richard Twilley's 1963 Monza got 39.8 MPG and Jim Pittman's 1966 Corsa got 33.7 MPG. Thirty-five Years Ago - Sep 1974 -- Events at our 6th meeting, in August, have faded into legend. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =END=