The July 2011 newsletter - Text Version Updated 21-May-2013 ==== Copyright (c) 2013 Corvairs of New Mexico ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AUGUST 2011 / VOLUME 37 / NUMBER 8 / ISSUE #431 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tony Fiore Memorial Chapter Newsletter Award, First Place, 2005 Tony Fiore Memorial Chapter Newsletter Award, Third Place, 2010 EDITOR: Jim Pittman NEXT MEETING: Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 PM North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center 7520 Carmel NE Wyoming & Carmel NE THIS MONTH: Dues Due.......................................Membership Committee In This Issue............Photos in and around our new meeting place A Trio of Surreal Forward Controls.............Detroit Corvair Club July Meeting Minutes.......................................Art Gold July Board Meeting Minutes.................................Art Gold The Straight Man: A Story from the 2011 Tri-State.......Robert Gold Look What I Found......................................Larry Yoffee Black Cars -- White Cars................................Jim Pittman Birthdays and Anniversaries......................Sunshine Committee I Didn't Know That! The ZAZ 966.........................Robert Gold Calendar of Coming Events........................Board of Directors Two Hundred and One Oil Leaks.........................Steve Gongora Corvair Sighting: The Pink Panther..................Movie from 1963 Seven, 14, 21, 28, Years Ago.........................Club Historian COVER: Two views of a Monza Convertible.........Mark Morgan drawings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MEETING: First Wednesday of each month at 6:00 PM North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, Wyoming & Carmel NE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ President: David Huntoon 505-281-9616 corvair66 @ aol.com Vice-Pres: Ray Trujillo 505-839-7436 ray @ bpsabq.com Secretary: Art Gold 505-620-7434 rollerart @ gmail.com Treasurer: Robert Gold 505-268-6878 beisbol30 @ msn.com Car Council: John Wiker 505-899-3076 wikerj63 @ yahoo.com Merchandise: Vickie Hall 505-865-5574 patandvickiehall @ q.com Membership: Larry Yoffee 505-321-5909 corsa180 @ gmail.com Sunshine: Heula Pittman 505-275-2195 jimp @ unm.edu Newsletter: Jim Pittman 505-275-2195 jimp @ unm.edu Past Pres: Pat Hall 505-620-5574 patandvickiehall @ q.com Past Pres: Mike Stickler 505-856-6993 sticorsa @ hotmail.com Correspondent: Charles Vertrees 505-299-0744 vertrees @ swcp.com DUES: CNM: 12 months $25.00 -or- 26 months $ 50.00 CORSA: 12 months $45.00 -or- 26 months $ 90.00 CNM & CORSA: 12 months $70.00 -or- 26 months $140.00 CORSA's home page: http://www.corvair.org Steve Gongora's page: http://www.corvair.org/chapters/chapter871 Larry Yoffee's home page: http://www.corsaturbo180usa.weebly.com CNM's newsletters: http://www.unm.edu/~jimp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DUES DUE DATES FOR AUGUST 2011 == DUE JUN = INACTIVE 25-JUL-2011: 2011.06 Mark Jones 2011.06 Klaudia & Steve Sanchez == DUE JUL = INACTIVE 25-AUG-2011: 2011.07 Anne & Geoffrey Johnson == DUE AUG = INACTIVE 25-SEP-2011: 2011.08 Ruth Boydston 2011.08 Alan Gold 2011.08 Janet & Steve Johnson 2011.08 Nancy & Russ McDuffie 2011.08 Bob Philips 2011.08 Mary Alice & Oliver Scheflow == DUE SEP = INACTIVE 25-OCT-2011: 2011.09 Anne Mae & Robert Gold == EXPIRED = INACTIVE AS OF 25-JUN-2010: 2011.01 Darlene & William Darcy 2011.01 Wibke Garrecht 2011.04 Cary Hubbard 2011.05 Elizabeth & Mark Domzalski Send your Dues to: Robert Gold CNM Treasurer, 1301 Valencia NE Albuquerque, NM 87110 Past due memberships will become inactive after a one-month grace period. The Club will mail in your National Dues when you renew, if you send us the renewal form from your CORSA Communique! CORSA# YEAR.MONTH NAME 25400 0000.00 Ruth Boydston 13007 1991.01 Frank Stadler 07456 2008.08 Jerry Goffe 24014 2009.03 Anne & Geoffrey Johnson 23387 2009.04 Janet & Steve Johnson 13137 2011.05 Kim Patten ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ July Meeting Notes 07-06-2011 Art Gold Our meeting came to order at 7:05pm, at the new location, North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, with 27 in attendance. Officer Reports President Dave Huntoon began the meeting by approving the minutes of the last meeting. He stated that Chuck Vertrees won the 2011 Boydston Award. Dave introduced a guest, Justin Whitfield, who has a 1965 500 coupe that longs to join its fellow Corvairs in our club. Vice President Ray Trujillo stated that Pat Hall brought the traveling plaque which CNM won at the Tri-State, and it will stay in the club library. Treasurer Robert Gold reported $4,458.67 in the account. He made a report of the Tri-State. This report included: 99 registrations, 97 raffle tickets sold for Ruth Boydston's awesome Corvair quilt, 111 tickets sold for Kay Sutt's gorgeous handcrafted purses, and 210 tickets sold for the 50/50 raffle. This resulted in $2,506 in club receipts. After expenses, the banquet left a surplus for the club treasury of $371.00. Large thanks to all involved in the Tri-State planning and implementing of the actual event. Committee Reports Membership Chair Larry Yoffee stated he has placed club information at the new meeting location. A member of Pikes Peak Corvair Club will put information about our club on their website. NM Car Council John Wiker was not in attendance, but Pat Hall stated that the council will be taking payments in advance for the August All-Clubs Picnic. The council wants all clubs to pitch in bringing something to the picnic. Dave will contact John on what the club is deciding to bring to the picnic on August 14th at Nambe Falls. Editor Jim Pittman stated that the newsletter deadline is Friday 7-22-11. He also stated that John sent the information flyer for the picnic. Jim also reported on making a special edition of the newsletter for the Tri-State, all in color, mailed only to all who registered. Jim stated that perhaps this Tri-State was the best one of them all, with beautiful scenery. Sunshine Chair Heula Pittman stated that, after the Tri-State, the committee is back in normal business mode. Hurley Wilvert brought all of the extra items from the Tri-State hospitality room and asked us to take items we wanted. Merchandise Chair Vickie Hall informed the prospective new member of what is for sale from the club. She reported that the scrap metal project in April brought the club $300 after Pat found the best price for the scrap. Pat said he did not intend to collect scrap metal this year and he wanted to take a break and maybe do it again in two or three years. He encouraged us to keep saving those scrap items for a future collection. Discussions continued about the National Convention: who planned to go, did anyone want to caravan to Denver. The 50/50 winner was Pat Hall who donated his $11.00 share to the Sunshine Committee, adding $22.00 total to the group. After the meeting, Larry suggested that our after-meeting location should be at a nearby IHOP. Maybe we'll hear how that turned out at the next meeting. Kevin Sullivan brought a cylinder head from his Ultra Van to show how one of the exhaust valves had burned its way into the valve seat. Members discussed whether it could be repaired so the head could be re-used. Who does that kind of work these days? Meeting adjourned at 7:48pm. We went outside to observe the red sunset and the distant smoke in the atmosphere. Submitted by Art "Hot Tamale with Red" Gold ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ July Board Meeting Notes 07-20-2011 Art Gold Meeting came to order at 5:05pm Officer Reports President - Dave Huntoon - asked if the accommodations for the new meeting site were acceptable. The board stated that the room was small, but we may be able to get a larger room. He also discussed the All Clubs Picnic in Nambe Falls. Vice President - Ray Trujillo - stated it's a hot day. He said he would work with our new meeting place to try to ensure that we can continue going there indefinitely. It was suggested that any of us who wish to join a Senior Center should join this one as additional incentive for them to keep us on. Treasurer - Robert Gold - $4,770.86 in the account (including the scrap metal payment). He also stated that he would not stand for re-election as treasurer, and suggested that Art Gold be a nomination for the treasurer position. Robert also stated the State Fair car show (Sunday, 9-25-11) is rolling along, but there will be fewer ribbons available. Committee Reports Membership - Larry Yoffee - was absent. NM Car Council - John Wiker - discussed the topic of the All Clubs Picnic, and what the club should be bringing. John will make the decision on what the club will bringing to the meeting. He also brought up the topic of who is responsible for the name tags. This topic will be tabled until later. In the meantime David said he'd get name tags for Connie & Hub Elmore. Editor - Jim Pittman - stated that the newsletter deadline is Friday 07-22-11. He also stated that the special full-color Red River Tri-State edition of the newsletter is now available on-line. Sunshine Committee - Heula Pittman - was not in attendance but Jim said all was well. Merchandise - Vickie Hall - stated that there is still merchandise for sale. Upcoming Events Neon Cruise (Saturday, 07-23-2011) There was discussion about who was going to the convention and when they would leave. Caravans to Denver, anyone? There was some discussion of the engine from Kevin Sullivan's Ultra Van and how he might rebuild or replace it. Meeting adjourned at 5:46pm Submitted by Art "24 Karat" Gold ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Straight Man A Story from the 2011 Tri-State Alas, one of my great regrets is that the Gold family as a group does not do a very good job at telling jokes. My son, Javi, from the time he started talking has attempted to make people laugh with his jokes, but to no avail. I'm not any better, but I still keep on trying. It turns out that contrary to my track record, the recently concluded Tri-State, held in Red River, allowed me to "get a laugh" that was actually funny. You may now be thinking, "Who cares about Robert's joke telling?" Normally it shouldn't be of any importance, but I think that all of you who have lamented the lack of respect that Corvairs get would appreciate this story. The scene begins against the backdrop of the 33 Corvairs that were being displayed at the Tri-State car show. The sheer number of cars, coupled with all that shiny paint, made for a spiritual experience for all the Corvair lovers in attendance. I was walking with my brother, Alan, from the car show to our room at Lifts West. We were walking by all the X-brand cars that were parked along the way. It was then that I first noticed the rather new 911 Porsche. Some of you might remember that a number of years ago a comparison was made between the Corvair Corsa and the 911. Remarkably, the Corsa and 911 have many things in common, such as curb weight, engine design and placement, as well as the type of suspension. Someone even called our car the "poor man's Porsche", an apt nickname for the Corsa. So I spy this 911 and at that very moment the proud owner of the car was getting out. Buoyed by the glow of 33 Corvairs I smiled at him and asked, "Isn't your car one of those German Corvairs?" It cracked up my brother and made me realize that even a no-talent person like me could get a joke right once in a while. Needless to say, I don't think the 911 owner who acted as the straight man in this routine was much impressed with my humor. CNM'ers be warned that I'll be trying out my new standup routine at our next meeting. -- Robert Gold ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Look What I Found Larry Yoffee Recently I returned from a visit with my mother who lost her husband of 54 years back in March. They lived in a home that was way too big on too much land. It's popular for people to downsize these days when they retire but for some reason they decided to up-size back in 1984. So, she has had a lot to deal with. My intention was to make sure she was doing ok and to fix what might need to be fixed. My duties also included helping to clean out the basement and garage, go through the tool situation and get rid of things no longer needed. So, we went through everything and made a pretty good dent in it. Even got the John Deere riding mower sold. It was fun to see some things I hadn't seen in a long time. And then I came across this box all sealed up. I don't get a lot of surprises these days and frankly I prefer not to. But when I opened this box and saw that it contained all my car magazines from as early as 1961, well, I couldn't believe it. If I even remembered them, I would have assumed that they were long gone. But there they were, and the memories of receiving my monthly Car and Driver and Hot Rod came flooding back. I also had found Car Craft, Motor Trend and more. Perhaps the one that was most entertaining and fun to see was the J.C. Whitney catalog from 1964 to 1965. There was a 3-page section dedicated to Corvairs and the prices of things really took me back. Back to the days when I had to work two weeks at the grocery store to buy a ram induction for a Holley 4-barrel and trombone mufflers. I was not able to bring very many magazines back with me as my suitcase was nearing its weight limit. I will get the rest in August when I visit again. In the meantime, I have scanned and posted several Corvair related ads and articles on my website which can be viewed at: http://www.corsaturbo180usa.com/ Click on the menu item called "Look What I found " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Black Cars -- White Cars Jim Pittman Last week I had to go somewhere in the middle of the day and I drove the 1990 Civic because it is white and the 1996 Miata is dark green, and I thought I'd be cooler in a white car. The sky was clear and the sun was high and I thought the white roof would reflect more sunlight than the dark green roof. I noticed, not for the first time, the colors of cars driving around town. This is Albuquerque at high noon in the middle of summer, and the number of black cars I saw was just amazing. Don't people who own black cars know that their cars are heat magnets, sucking in the sunlight and making their air conditioners do triple duty? At lower altitudes or at higher latitudes it would make less difference to have a black or dark color roof. Will someone tell me why anyone in New Mexico would buy a dark-colored car? I started thinking of this in terms of fuel economy. Sure, no one really cares about gas mileage, we'd all rather have a powerful car instead of a gas miser too weak to get out of its own way. But then, look at all the fuss about gasoline prices threatening to go over $4 a gallon. What if we could effortlessly save 10% on our fuel cost, without doing a thing, except to buy a white car instead of a black one? Would we do it? Wait, you say, are you telling me you can use less gas driving a white car instead of a black one? Well, it takes gasoline to run the air conditioner. If you put in less heat for the air conditioner to push out, it will require less gasoline. Okay, exactly how much fuel saving could we realize? It's probably basic physics to calculate a rough answer. How much work does your air conditioner have to do? It has to take heat from the air in the passenger compartment and move it to the radiator to be blown away by ambient air. How does the heat get into the air in the passenger compartment? Some of it comes from your metabolism -- the driver's body makes heat and every passenger makes more. If you carry five passengers in your car, that's six times the amount of heat as if you were driving alone. Some of the heat comes from the engine. In a front-engine car this heat transfer has to come through the firewall, and heat from the exhaust system may come up through the floor. Good insulation will reduce this heat load. (By the way, a Corvair puts essentially no heat from the engine and exhaust pipes and muffler into the passenger compartment. Unless maybe while you are driving in reverse.) On a sunny day, some of the heat will come in through the windshield and the window glass. Tinted glass will reduce this heat load. If the interior surfaces are dark colored, they'll suck up this heat, but if they are light colored they will reflect part of the energy. Similarly, some heat will get in when the sun heats up the body of the car, and this is the part of the heat load I am saying we can reduce by buying a white car. Heat also leaves the interior of the car in several ways, not just by the action of the air conditioner. If you open air vents and crack your windows and drive at a brisk speed, the heated interior air is replaced with ambient air. On long trips in my Corvair I found that cracking the left rear window about an inch would let air out without too much wind noise. The side vent window in the summer and the heater setting in the winter were enough to keep me cool or warm enough in any but the most extreme weather, at least at highway speeds. When the car is parked it's possible to crack the windows to let a little of the heated air escape from the car. But we all know that the greenhouse effect works with a car to keep heat in the passenger compartment. The hot interior can't radiate much heat out through the glass, so the whole car just keeps on heating up. As the exterior of the car gets hotter, it radiates heat away from the body of the car. Does white paint radiate as well as black paint? Maybe yes, maybe no, you can't tell just by looking at the color. Radiation from a car on a hot day is all in the infrared range of the electromagnetic spectrum, and in the infrared there's probably not much difference between black paint and white paint. For a parked car in the sun, what we don't know is, how much heat comes in from the hot engine and exhaust system, how much comes in through the glass, how much comes in through the black (or white) roof. And we don't know how much heat leaves the car by direct conduction and by radiation from every surface of the car. It's possible that the components of heat transfer to and from the car that depend on the color of the roof are small compared to the total heat transfer of the whole car. We'll just have to do an experiment to find out. So, let's get two otherwise identical cars, one white and one black, park them in a sunny parking lot, and measure the interior temperatures every 15 minutes for a couple of hours. Well, I don't have to do that experiment because I can look on the Internet and find data from someone who already did it. Take a look at: http://www.tom-morrow-land.com/tests/cartemp/index.htm You can read the article for yourself, so I'll summarize. Yes, the parked black car gets hotter than the white car. But the interior color makes a lot of difference: a light-colored interior takes longer to heat up than a dark-colored interior. And, if a car with windows rolled up is left out in the summer sun long enough, it will eventually get really hot even if it's white with light interior. I didn't find a study that directly stated how much more energy would go into cooling down a car after it was parked in the sun for a half hour, but my belief is that, if the black car with black interior gets 10% hotter (or gets hotter 10% faster) than the white car with light interior, then it must take something like 10% more gasoline energy to run the air conditioner to equally cool the two cars. You can read the article for methodology, but here are just a few data points to illustrate the results: CAR BACK RIGHT WIND- LEFT COLOR TRUNK WINDOW ROOF WINDOW SHIELD HOOD WINDOW =========== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== Light Gray 102.7 109.0 113.7 108.0 126.7 115.3 94.3 White 88.3 107.7 93.7 106.7 127.3 95.7 92.7 Black 131.3 111.3 147.7 110.0 130.3 160.0 96.7 Dark Red 124.0 109.0 133.7 110.3 128.7 140.3 95.7 Pearl White 83.0 103.0 92.0 105.3 124.0 87.7 93.3 Black 133.0 112.0 137.3 113.7 131.7 160.0 98.7 Dark Gray 119.3 109.0 133.3 110.0 119.3 142.3 95.0 == CONTINUE INTERNET ARTICLE QUOTE == The author goes on to calculate averages for: The paint temp, including Trunk, Roof, and Hood. The glass temp, including Windshield, Left and Right Windows, and Back Window. The following table has those results, along with the factory paint color codes/names and interior colors. Avg.Paint Avg.Glass PaintColor Interior ToyotaColorCode/Name Sunroof Model 110.6 109.5 Light Gray Gray 1C8/Lunar Mist Metallic No XLE 92.6 108.6 White Gray 040/Super White No LE 146.3 112.1 Black Gray 202/Black Yes XLE 132.7 110.9 Dark Red Black 3Q3/Salsa Red Yes SEV6 87.6 106.4 Pearl White Tan Crystal White Yes LE Spec.Ed 143.4 114.0 Black Gray 202/Black No LE 131.7 108.3 Dark Gray Gray 1E3/Phantom Gray Pearl No LE As you can see, the glass temperature ranges from 106.4 degrees F on the coolest white car to 114.0 on the hottest black car, a worst case difference of only 7.6 degrees. The difference between the average white glass temperature and the average black temperature is 113.1-107.5 = 5.6. It all depends on your tolerance for heat, but to me 5 to 6 degrees more for a black versus white car is not too bad. I don't think I'd be much happier if the car was 107.5 degrees for a few minutes after I return to the car rather than 113.1 degrees for those few minutes. One concern in this type of testing is perhaps the glass temperature is not determined primarily by the internal temperature. Perhaps it's determined primarily by the ambient temperature. However I believe this to be unlikely, since the glass temperatures around 110 degrees are significantly higher than the ambient temperature of 80 degrees. The windows wouldn't remain that hot if they were getting their heat from just the ambient air. Another concern with this type of testing is perhaps the glass temperature is determined by the sun heating the windows directly more than from the interior air heating them. The fact that the left window measured about 15-20 degrees lower than the right window (due to the sun coming more from the left) would support that concern. Car windows filter some percentage of ultraviolet rays out of the light that passes through, and this filtered light is likely converted to heat in the window. However, this concern is mitigated by the fact that for all windows the white cars are cooler than the black cars, and by about the same amount. The glass heating doesn't seem to be responsible for the differences in recorded temperatures between the cars. Something else to consider is that if 20% of the UV is filtered by the windows, then 80% hits the interior of the car, and most of that gets absorbed and converted to heat inside the car. We can see that the painted surfaces of the car did indeed vary by a large amount between the white and black cars. The difference between the average black and average white cars is: 144.85- 90.25 = 54.6 degrees. This is about ten times what the glass variation was. Theories How do we explain the difference between the paint temperatures and the glass temperatures? On first glance it seems like if the outside of the car is much hotter, then the interior must be much hotter too. I think there are several effects at work here: 1. Convection. The hotter the paint is, the more the air tends to rise around it, carrying the heat away from the interior. Also, any wind will tend to move the paint heat away from the car interior. 2. Insulation. The paint is physically separated from the interior in the case of the hood and trunk. And in the case of the roof, the roof liner has insulation that keeps the heat away. You can think of the oven in your kitchen. No matter how long you keep the oven on at 425 degrees, you don't have to worry about the kitchen itself getting up to 425 degrees; convection takes some of the air from the oven out the exhaust vent, and insulation in the oven keeps heat inside. The oven does raise the temperature of the kitchen, but nowhere near 425 degrees. All this can explain why the paint doesn't affect the interior temperature as much, but then why does the interior temperature rise in the sun anyway? I believe that direct absorption of the sun is the main reason that the cabins get hot. The sun gets absorbed partially by the UV filter in the windows, and largely by the surfaces of the car interior. The sun that hits the dashboard or seats turns into heat, and because it's happening directly in the interior of the car, it's directly affecting the interior temperature. This explains why putting a silver sun deflector in the front windshield helps so much to keep the car cool; it keeps the sun from being absorbed in the interior of the car. Comparison with public perception Before doing these tests, I did a poll on the Prius yahoo group, asking what people thought the difference in interior temperatures would be between a black and a white car. Here are the poll results: How many degrees hotter do you think the interior air of a black car will be in comparison to a white car. Assume both cars have been left closed an hour or more to stabilize with no reflectors or other window coverings, in direct sun at 1pm, ambient temperature 75 degrees outside. The interior of both cars is the same light neutral color. Temperatures in Fahrenheit. Response Number of Votes Black car 0- 5 degrees hotter than white 5 Black car 6-10 degrees hotter than white 6 Black car 11-15 degrees hotter than white 6 Black car 16-20 degrees hotter than white 6 Black car 21-25 degrees hotter than white 1 Black car 26-30 degrees hotter than white 0 Black car 31-35 degrees hotter than white 0 Black car 36-40 degrees hotter than white 1 Black car 41 or more degrees hotter than white 3 So 5 people guessed too low, and 23 people guessed too high. This indicates to me that the public's perception is not in line with reality. People think black cars are more uncomfortably hot inside than they actually are. This is interesting partially because because public perception makes market realities. Certain car colors are actually worth more than other car colors on the used car market; many pricing engines require you to enter the color in order to get a quote. If these price differentials are even partially based on false perceptions around sun warming, then you could save money buying a darker used car if you like that color. This document was written 05/08/2005. Comments? == END INTERNET ARTICLE QUOTE == ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Seven CNMers celebrate birthdays this month: Geoff Johnson August 4 Enrique Sanchez August 5 Joel Nash August 8 Steve Johnson August 10 Lee Reider August 11 Ryan McDuffie August 18 Larry Yoffee August 25 Two couples deserve HAPPY ANNIVERSARY wishes: Marilyn & Richard Foster August 5 Sylvia & Ray Trujillo August 7 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Didn't Know That! The ZAZ 966 Robert Gold I spend a lot of time watching car shows on TV. I'll never be able to do what those craftsman do, but I do enjoy seeing them do it. What I really like is to watch the shows that describe the history of cars. One show I've discovered that is rather fun is Top Gear, a car show from England (they call it the UK). The Top Gear folks love to do all sorts of odd things that involve cars. One episode quickly comes to mind. It was a race between a car driving a mile route to a spot at the same time a VW bug was dropped by a plane a mile above the same spot. It had a spectacular ending. The other night I was watching a show dedicated to cars that originated in the Communist countries. As they did their introductions I noticed a car in the background that looked very familiar. Is that a Corvair? Nah, couldn't be. Maybe.... I watched them demonstrate how poorly constructed and designed those cars where, when they finally showed us the ZAZ (Zaporozhsky Avtomobilny Zavod) 966, made in the Ukraine. Their description mentioned the Porsche 911 since the car had a rear engine (hmmm), but no mention was made of the Corvair. A quick trip to my computer solved the mystery. Here is what one site said: "Like a number of contemporary European designs and unlikely as it sounds -- its looks were inspired by the much larger American Chevrolet Corvair," I think I've discovered a Communist cousin to our beloved Corvair. Maybe we need to get a CORSA chapter going in the Ukraine? Just a thought. -- Robert Gold ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ============================================================================ | August 2011 | September 2011 | October 2011 | | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | | 1 2 3 4 5 6 | 1 2 3 | 1 | | 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | | 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 | 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | | 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 | | 28 29 30 31 | 25 26 27 28 29 30 | 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 | | | | 30 31 | ============================================================================ Wed 3 Aug 7:00 PM North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, at the corner of Wyoming and Carmel NE, just north of Paseo del Norte. Wed 3 Aug After our meeting, we'll go to the nearby IHOP, or maybe, to the 66 Diner, 1405 Central NE Sat 6 Aug 8:00 AM Old Route 66 Clean-up - Ollie Scheflow Sat 13 Aug Second Saturdays: Los Lunas "66 Cruise" starts in Bosque Farms at the Wells Fargo Bank. 1:00 PM in Winter, 6:00 PM during Daylight Time. Sun 14 August ........ NMCCC All Clubs Picnic: Nambe Falls Wed 17 Aug 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Fri 26 Aug 9:00 PM September Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman ============================================================================ Wed 7 Sep 6:00 to 7:00 PM Meeting: Location to be determined Wed 7 Sep After our meeting, we go to the 66 Diner, 1405 Central NE Sat 10 Sep Second Saturdays: Los Lunas "66 Cruise" starts in Bosque Farms at the Wells Fargo Bank. 1:00 PM in Winter, 6:00 PM during Daylight Time. Wed 21 Sep 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Fri 23 Sep 9:00 PM October Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman Sun 25 Sep 7:00 AM State Fair Car Show Fri-Sat-Sun 23-24-25 September -- NMCCC Swap Meet, Los Lunas, NM. ============================================================================ Sun 2 Oct CORVAIR HERITAGE DAY (Corvair's official birthday) Wed 5 Oct 6:00 to 7:00 PM Meeting: Location to be determined Wed 5 Oct Election of Officers at October Meeting. Inform yourself! Vote! Wed 5 Oct After our meeting, we go to the 66 Diner, 1405 Central NE Sat 8 Oct Second Saturdays: Los Lunas "66 Cruise" starts in Bosque Farms at the Wells Fargo Bank. 1:00 PM in Winter, 6:00 PM during Daylight Time. Wed 19 Oct 5:00 PM Board Meeting: Business Printing Service - 4316 Silver SE Fri 21 Oct 9:00 PM November Newsletter Deadline - Jim Pittman ============================================================================ More activities: New Mexico Council of Car Clubs: http://www.nmcarcouncil.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tarmo Sutt suggested a tour to Glorietta (east of Santa Fe) to see a collection of old guns, some as recent as the Great War of 1914-18. Is there any interest? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Two Hundred and One Oil Leaks Steve Gongora My friend Dale Erickson owns the Shell Rapid Lube Oil Change on Wyoming and Comanche. His uncle was Fred Johnson. Fred was an electrical engineer in Minnesota who worked in the broadcast industry. He was fascinated by Corvairs. He moved to Dallas and, doing his own research, wrote two technical manuals in the 1970s. They can be found for sale in Clark's Corvair Parts on page 247. The books are Corvair Wheel Alignment and Stop Corvair Lubricant Leaks. In the Leak book it was said that there were 200 places a Corvair could leak. Dale Erickson's father, Phillip Erickson was an architectural engineer and a great artist. He drew this cartoon in the early 80's depicting the 201st place where a Corvair could leak, the drain plug. What a great connection to Corvairs. I noticed that they used the drawing in the current CORSA Communique. I met with my friend last week, Tosh Gregg for his birthday. Tosh is responsible for publishing the book How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive. The book may have inspired Richard Finch to write his version for the Corvair. Tosh and friend co-published his book and did a lot of collaboration in Manzanillo, Mexico. I know it came out in the late 1960s and has sold over a million copies. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CORVAIR SPOTTED IN PINK PANTHER MOVIE Jim & Heula Do you watch for Corvairs in movies and television shows? We do. Occasionally we see one, although typically movies set in the 1960s will feature full-size "American Graffiti" Fords and Chevies and rarely show compacts. Recently we watched The Pink Panther movie and enjoyed trying to identify the cars that happened to appear in this 1963 movie. Many were odd-looking Italian or French cars, but in the "graduation" sequence the Robert Wagner character crosses the street just after an early Buick Skylark and just before an early Corvair sedan. Who can tell the year of the Corvair from these glimpses? I could not. The sequence at the top of the page is of course the defining moment for Peter Sellers in his creation of the character of the bumbling French police Inspector Jacques Clouseau. Get a copy of The Pink Panther movie. You may enjoy seeing images from the world of 1963. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YEARS AGO -- Jim Pittman 07 YEARS AGO -- AUGUST 2004 VOL 30 Nr 8 # 347 On the cover: a graph of our treasury dollars since 1996, and a photo of several members at the Owl Cafe breakfast. Thirty-four members attended our July meeting at Galles Chevrolet. Wendell said we had $2500 in the bank. Ruth, our caretaker of merchandise, had 57 license plates, 19 jacket patches, 159 CNM pins and 40 Care & Feeding books available. Del and David reported on going to the Convention in Del's "purple" Corvair. We planned a picnic trip to Ruth's place in the Jemez. We discussed mailing exchange newsletters to other clubs. Were the ones we got in return worth our expenses to mail to them? We learned that Mary Lou & Mark Martinek were moving to Washington state. Steve Goodman wrote about a fire that almost started in the engine lid insulation of a show car -- the sun reflected from the shiny chrome 140-HP engine air cleaner cover and acted like a magnifying glass, heating up the somewhat oily insulation to the point of smoke! Oliver Scheflow reported on our latest Old Route 66 clean-up by nine members and guests. Finally, an article from the internet forecast what might happen in the not-too-distant future when corporations and the government routinely gleaned all our personal information and a analyzed it with sinister results. That article was written seven years ago. Are we there yet? 14 YEARS AGO -- AUGUST 1997 VOL 23 Nr 8 # 263 The cover featured a Corvair crossword puzzle. President Domzalski ran our meeting and Treasurer Walker said we had $7,345.40 in our various accounts. Guests were Mike Cossey who has a 1964 Monza which he would like to sell, and Bernadette Gongora who brought her dad, Steve Gongora. Or was it the other way around? Sylvan said we had a new member from Farmington who had a 1965 500 which he wanted to change from a 3 speed to a 4 speed. Those who attended the International Convention in Lake Placid gave accounts of their trip. (There were hints that the Lake Placid convention made us appreciate our Vairs in the Air convention even more.) We planned to convoy to the Santa Fe for the Car Show on the Plaza and pancake breakfast on July 4th, leaving from the Goodwill store on San Mateo at 6:30 AM. Our VLA tour was planned for Sunday July 27th and we intended to stop in Socorro for an early lunch. There were eight Corvairs at the All-Chevy show. A possible summer campout was on hold. Tech tips included an article by Mark Domzalski on cleaning up your dash instruments to make them look like new as well as make them much easier to read. Dennis forwarded a quote from CNN by former Apollo VII astronaut Walter Cunningham, who was testifying this week before Congress in an attempt to spur more space exploration. "Today, the once rambunctious American spirit of innovation and adventure is being paralyzed by the desire for a risk-free society. This country was established by risk-takers.... It's the Christopher Columbuses and the Neil Armstrongs who move us forward, not the Ralph Naders. With a Ralph Nader at the head of a wagon train, we would never have made it across the plains and over the Rockies." Reference CNN site http://cnn.com/TECH/9705/09/space.hearing/index.html 21 YEARS AGO -- AUGUST 1990 VOL 16 Nr 8 # 179 The cover drawing showed all the parts of a 140-HP air cleaner. Steve Gongora penned our meeting notes. New members were Mary Lou Martinek and Steve Randock. We discussed the future of Tri-State meets and our club voted to continue them as they have been: Rocky Mountain, Pikes Peak and New Mexico to continue rotating the sponsorship every three years, and not expand to include other clubs. We planned an economy run to Grants and a tour of the mining museum there. After a call for candidates to run for office in October and a preview of the Route 66 Econo-Run to Grants, we had a nice article on the function of motor oil additives. 28 YEARS AGO -- AUGUST 1983 VOL 09 Nr 8 # 095 The cover had a cartoon with these balloon quotes: "Yesterday some guy came by and asked how much you'd pay to have this junker hauled outta here. I told him to forget it because you were planning to restore it someday." "Thanks... some people just don't understand about classic cars!" The car in question was Shoe's 1963 Corvair. This month we had $515 to spend and a talk by George Morin on problems installing a 1964 rear end in a Lakewood. Your editor had an essay on the "rope-drive" Pontiac Tempest. Who remembers what that was and where it got that nickname? This month we published a member list with 56 names. 35 YEARS AGO -- THERE WAS NO NEWSLETTER FOR AUGUST 1976 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ == END ==