The May 2015 newsletter - Text Version 

Updated 28-Apr-2015 == Copyright (c) 2015 == Corvairs of New Mexico    

   MAY 2015 / VOLUME 41 / NUMBER 5 / ISSUE #476  

Tony Fiore Memorial Chapter Newsletter Award, First Place, 2005
Tony Fiore Memorial Chapter Newsletter Award, Third Place, 2010
Tony Fiore Memorial Chapter Newsletter Award, First Place, 2012

EDITOR: Jim Pittman

NEXT MEETING:               Wednesday, April 1st, 2015 at 7:00 PM
 North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, Wyoming & Carmel NE

THIS MONTH: Cover Story: Bakersfield Corvairs ... Jim McWilliams
 Cover Story: Zero to $10,000 (or more?) ........... Jim Pittman
 Mechanically Un-inclined ......................... Ray Trujillo
 April Meeting Minutes ........................... Anne Mae Gold
 April Board Meeting ............................. Anne Mae Gold
 Discovery at the April Board Meeting ............... Tarmo Sutt
 Double Dipping: Car Council ....................... Robert Gold
 Birthdays & Anniversaries .................. Sunshine Committee
 Late Model Headlight Bezel ...................... Fred Edeskuty
 Treasury Report ................................... Robert Gold
 Who is J. D. Forney? Why do I care? ............... Robert Gold
 Raffle Car from 1996 CORSA Convention .............. Bill Brown
 Upcoming Albuquerque Museum Car Show .............. Robert Gold
 The Sea of Tranquility: Car Council ............... Robert Gold
 Calendar of Coming Events .................. Board of Directors
 May Issues, 7, 14, 21, 28, 35 Years Ago ........ Club Historian
 COVER: A pair (?) of Corvairs spotted in Bakersfield, California
 COVER: A Familiar 1965 Monza coupe, Unrecognizable in Primer

  MEETINGS: First Wednesday of the Month at 7:00 PM
  North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, Wyoming & Carmel NE
  President:          Ray Trujillo  505-839-7436              ray @
  Vice-Pres:        Tarmo Sutt      505-690-2046            tarmo @
  Secretary:     Anne Mae Gold      505-268-6878        beisbol30 @
  Treasurer:       Robert Gold      505-268-6878        beisbol30 @
  Car Council:     Robert Gold      505-268-6878        beisbol30 @
  Merchandise:     Vickie Hall      505-865-5574 patandvickiehall @
  Membership:       Larry Yoffee    505-321-5909         corsa180 @
  Sunshine:            VACANT          VACANT                  VACANT
  Newsletter:         Jim Pittman   505-275-2195             jimp @
  Old Route 66:      Lube Lubert    505-256-9331     505-400-3680 = cell
  Past President:     Pat Hall      505-620-5574 patandvickiehall @
  Past President:    John Wiker     505-899-3076         wikerj63 @
  Past President:   David Huntoon   505-281-9616        corvair66 @

MEETINGS: First Wednesday of each Month at 7:00 PM
   North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center, Wyoming & Carmel NE

              CORSA's home page:
              CNM's newsletters:
           Steve Gongora's page:
       Larry Yoffee's home page:
New Mexico Council of Car Clubs:

          DUES:  CNM: 12 months $25.00 -or- 26 months $ 50.00
               CORSA: 12 months $45.00 -or- 26 months $ 90.00
         CNM & CORSA: 12 months $70.00 -or- 26 months $140.00


EXPIRED ============================ INACTIVE DATE
2014.05   Marilyn & Richard Foster     25-JUN-2014
2014.05               Chloe Mullins    25-JUN-2014
2014.06      Melba & Tommie Anderson   25-JUL-2014
2014.06     Susanne & Larry Hickerson  25-JUL-2014
2014.09   Kathryn & Douglas Gadomski   25-OCT-2014
2014.09             Brian E Rowe       25-OCT-2014
2014.11      Matt & Heather Choiniere  25-DEC-2014
2015.01   Darlene & William Darcy      25-Feb-2015
2015.02               Frank Stadler    25-Mar-2105
2015.03                Carl Johnson    25-APR-2015

DUE LAST MONTH ===================== INACTIVE DATE
2015.04                     NONE

DUE THIS MONTH ===================== INACTIVE DATE
2015.05  Valerie Nye & Joel Yelich     25-JUN-2015

DUE NEXT MONTH ===================== INACTIVE DATE
2015.06            Curtis L Shimp      25-JUL-2015

DUE JULY 2015 ====================== INACTIVE DATE
2015.07        Rita & Steve Gongora    25-AUG-2015
2015.07       Tracey & John McMahan    25-AUG-2015

Send your Dues to:
 CNM Treasurer c/o Robert Gold
 1301 Valencia NE
 Albuquerque, NM 87110
Past due memberships become inactive after a one-month grace period.
The Club will mail in your National Dues if you send us the renewal
form from your Communique.

As of 26 April 2015 we had  41  active family memberships.



On Apr 6, 2015 Jim McWilliams < jmcwilli47 @ > wrote:

I stumbled onto your Corvair web page tonight and thought you might enjoy the
attached photo. I was visiting my brother in Bakersfield and one day hopped on
the freeway right behind the Corvair pictured. What an interesting sight! My
wife was able to get the picture with her cell phone and I am glad that she did
because that sight would be hard to describe without a photo.

I became interested in Corvairs when I was in high scool in the early 60's. My
stepbrother was a Navy pilot and one time when he was at sea he left his cherry
Spyder with us and I was able to drive it for a while, I loved it! After I
graduated from high school I joined the Navy and was stationed for a while at
NAS Kingsville, Tx. and while there I was friends with a fellow who owned a
Corvair. When the weekend came we would visit Padre Island and sleep on the
beach because we had no money. It was winter and I would sleep on the engine
hood to keep warm but of course that didn't last long and I usually finished the
night curled up on the sand, cold. Being young has its advantages, I would not
try that now.

So, those are my Corvair memories.

Enjoy your web page,
Jim McWilliams < jmcwilli47 @ >

On Apr 7, 2015 David Huntoon < corvair66 @ > wrote:

Thanks for the picture and a bit of Corvair history. We all have some unique
stories of our experiences with Corvairs. I will pass this on to our newsletter
editor for inclusion in our newsletter. I see your signature includes "Aztec".
Would that be Aztec, NM? If so, you might be interested in our mini Corvair
meeting in Durango in late May. Usually cars from NM, Colorado, Kansas and
Oklahoma and a few other places. If you need more info let me know.

Thanks again, take care.
Dave Huntoon / CNM / CORSA

On Apr 7, 2015 Jim Pittman < jimp @ > wrote:

David forwarded your email and photo. I'd like to publish both in our newsletter
with your permission.

On Apr 8, 2015 Jim McWilliams < jmcwilli47 @ > wrote:

Yes you have my permission and if you credit photos that you publish I would
appreciate it if you credit my wife Marilyn for the photo. I think she will get
a kick out of that.

Jim McWilliams

Photo: Marilyn McWilliams



"Zero to $10,000 in Several Easy Steps" will be the title of a future article
with this month's cover photos of the car in primer representing the first step.

The story starts as I neglected doing any serious work on my 1965 Monza for
years (thus the "zero") but then I decided to fix just one thing (a cracked
windshield) which led to another thing and another thing and yet another thing.
A final step is still in the future and may bring me to the $10,000 mark. The
final step may never be reached! The complete story may never be told!

The first step was taking the car to an auto glass shop. "Sure, we can replace
the windshield," the tech said. "Can you bring the car in tomorrow?" Okay. After
about an hour they called me to the back to look at the car. The cracked
windshield had been removed and rust and holes hidden by the lower trim were now
exposed! "We can't put in the windshield until those rust holes are repaired,
and we don't repair rust holes. You need a body shop for that."

So, I took the car to a body shop. Can't just repair the rust holes, might as
well fix all the dents and repaint the car. Now the car will require mechanical
fixes. Steering, suspension and transmission all need work.

There will be more to come!



Hello everyone!

CNM held its first Old Route 66 cleanup on Saturday April 11th and we had eight
members show up to help. Thanks to Lube Lubert, John Wiker, Jim Pittman, Pat
Hall, Robert Gold, Dan Palmer, David Huntoon and yours truly for taking the time
to keep our assigned mile free of litter. We took about an hour to collect 15
bags of trash and as Robert Gold said as we finished up, "It gives you a good
feeling knowing we contributed with our civic duty." Robert, I couldn't have
said it better myself.

 On the following Saturday, six CNM members showed up at Jefferson Middle
School's 75th Anniversary celebration. The six members who made it were Art Gold
(he teaches at Jefferson), Robert and Anne Mae Gold, Alan Gold, John Wiker and
myself. Thank you to Art for the invite as it was a very worthwhile event. There
were lots of neat activities to see and of course there was a good variety of
food to choose from. For those of us who brought our cars to the show, the staff
at Jefferson gave us each a food voucher to use as we pleased. That's always a
nice perk and it's really appreciated. We got to meet Smoky Bear and Orbit, the
mascot of the Isotopes. You know, other than Smoky and Orbit, our very own John
Wiker is also a great ambassador for our Corvair hobby. John made the day for
many of the young kids who came to see our collector cars. For the older kids,
John would ask them if they'd like to sit in the driver's seat of his car and
all of them were more than thrilled with the chance. Many of the parents of the
kids would take a picture of the occasion, and let me tell you, the kids would
light up with some of the biggest smiles you've ever seen. For the real small
kids John would ask the parents if they'd like to take a picture of their child
in the open trunk of his 1966 Corvair. That's always a really cool picture and I
think many of the parents were as thrilled as their kids were. Thanks John for
your enthusiasm and also for giving the kids a memory that they'll not soon

On Saturday April 25th, CNM went on a driving tour to Grants. We had a nice
turnout as sixteen members attended. Five members drove their Corvairs and we
all followed Dick Cochran from the Rio Puerco and I-40 on-ramp. The five
Corvairs were brought by Steve & Rita Gongora with granddaughter Steele, Tarmo
Sutt, Hurley Wilvert, John Wiker and myself.

The Brand-X vehicles were driven by Larry Blair, Jim Pittman, Art Gold along
with Robert and Anne Mae, David Huntoon, Terry & Sarah Price, and of course Dick
Cochran. Dick led us through much of the historic Old Route 66 roadway. As we
went through Mesita I saw residents there picking up trash as CNM does on our
section of Old Route 66. I saw a sign advertising the cleanup as part of the
Earth Day duties for their community. Anyway, our Corvair caravan probably
surprised them a bit as they stopped for a minute to see our cars and wave as we
drove by. We continued westward and came across Laguna and the village of
Cubero, and then made a quick stop at the BLM Ranger station for the El Malpais
National Park. We proceeded on to a gravel road for our next stop at the
Sandstone Bluff overlook, and what a spectacular view it was. We were up on a
ledge looking down on beautiful lava fields below with cascading rock cliffs all
around. It was up on this ledge where Steve and Rita showed me the exact spot
they had taken a picture of themselves along with their daughters twenty-five
years ago when CNM did this trip for the first time. So it was a great
opportunity for them to now take a picture with their granddaughter twenty-five
years later on CNM's second trip.

We continued our cruise to the La Ventana parking lot and took a short walk to
the magnificent archway. The arch is truly a sight to behold. It is massive and
the colors on the rocks are just amazing. New Mexico has some of the most
awesome natural wonders in the world. We took about half an hour at the archway
and then we headed back toward Grants for a visit to the Mining Museum. Once at
the museum we got to watch a video about the uranium mining in the area and then
had a guided tour in a very realistic mine shaft that was made for visitors.
I've never been in an actual mine, but this setup sure made me feel like I was
in one. We finished the mine tour around 2:30 and then we all went for some
lunch before heading back home. A big thank you to Dick Cochran and Steve
Gongora for a very educational experience and a fun day cruise.

Now let's move on to our May events. The NMCCC/Albuquerque Museum Car show will
take place May 17th and we will meet at the Old Town Sheraton parking lot at
7:00am. The cost is $10 and really is a great bargain compared to many of the
other cars shows. Not only is the price right but you'll get to see some of the
most beautiful cars around. A few weeks later the annual Tri-State meet will
take place on May 29-31 in the colorful mountain town of Durango. Hopefully
you've already booked your room for this casual and relaxing weekend. If not,
there's still time and believe me it's one of the highlight events of the year.
If you'd like to order a t-shirt for the Tri-State weekend simply go to

I guess that's enough said for now, so I'll see you at the next club meeting!
-- Ray Trujillo



Call to Order: 7:04 pm

President: Previous minutes were approved. Ray Trujillo said that the turnout
for the 41st anniversary dinner was wonderful. Larry Yoffee sent his thanks to
all who nominated and voted for him for the Meissner Award. Thanks to John Wiker
for being announcer/MC for the evening, and to all those who brought door prizes
for the dinner.

Vice President: Tarmo Sutt did not have much to say. Corvair activity up in
Santa Fe seems to be picking up. He has seen 3 new Corvairs.

Secretary: Anne Mae Gold nothing to report.

Treasurer: Robert Gold reported our current balance at $5,167.29. The
anniversary dinner check cleared. The club paid $104.05 as tip for the
Anniversary dinner.

Membership: Larry not being present, nothing was reported.

Editor: Jim Pittman said April is a long month, so the deadline for the
newsletter is Friday, April 24. Jim has still not heard anything from CORSA
about our Chapter Fee or our Chapter Report.

Car Council: Robert Gold reported that NMCCC has a new "at large" board member:
Jaime Saavedra. Wednesday April 8 at 6pm is the meeting for the stuffing party
at the Old Car Garage. This is the mailing for the Museum Car Show. If you come
and help you will be fed pizza. The Great Race will be coming through town on
Wednesday June 24. There will be about 130 cars and a few hundred people
including drivers and support. They are supposed to stop at Old Town for a two
hour lunch. The NMCCC will be giving them car plaques. Robert is concerned at
how it can be organized to find parking and food for so many cars and people but
Car Council staff are working on it. The Great Race wil be at the Santa Fe Plaza
on Tuesday June 23 and this will probably be a bigger "event" than the stop in

Merchandise: Vickie Hall has some calendars to give away. Nothing has been sold.

Sunshine Committee: Vickie is working on the birthday cards.

Upcoming Events:

Old Route 66 cleanup on April 11 at 8:30 am. Ray sent out a new sign-up sheet.
Lube passed one around at the last meeting as well.

Annual Spring Thaw at the Old Car Garage on April 18. The Old Car Garage is at
3232 Girard NE. Contact information will be on the website.

Jefferson Middle School Car Show: Art Gold invites everyone to bring your
Corvair to Jefferson Middle School on Saturday April 18 from 9:30-1:30. You will
get a food voucher for your participation. This car show is in celebration of
the school's 75th anniversary.

Tour to Grants: our driving tour will be Saturday April 25. Participants can
meet for breakfast at 8:00am at the "Flying J" truck stop just west of town. The
group will leave the truck stop at 8:45 and head to Rio Puerco to meet up with
Dick Cochran at 9am.

Jeff Barrett of CORSA/NC will be driving a Corvair through town on Tuesday April
28 (this date is not firm) and we can meet him at the Owl Cafe on Eubank & I-40.
This is a fundraiser for the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Tarmo suggests that
everyone bring parts for him.

The Albuquerque Museum/NMCCC car show will be held Saturday May 17. Meet at the
Old Town Sheraton parking lot at 7:00 AM. The entry fee is only $10.

The Durango Tri-State meet is May 29-31. The host hotel is the Hampton Inn ($110
plus tax per night). If interested in T-shirts, please go to Rocky Mountain
CORSA's web site: to order them.

Old News:

Concerning the headlight bezel: in 1965 they made a change because water was
gathering inside. The company put an opening in the bezel to help drain the
water. Russ McDuffie sent out an e-mail listing the 130-plus changes Corvair
made to the model from 1965 to 1966. Perhaps not everyone received the e-mail.
Tarmo said the Great American Race will be going through Santa Fe on June 23.
They will be arriving on the plaza between 5 and 7pm. The Santa Fe Convention
Center will be feeding them. They will be spending the night in Santa Fe. The
various car clubs in Santa Fe are coming together to find places for them to
stay. Dave Huntoon mentioned that sometime in May there will be a display of old
airplanes (maybe rides in the old airplanes) at the Santa Fe airport.

Meeting adjourned at 7:48pm



Present: Ray Trujillo, Tarmo Sutt, Jim Pittman, Lube Lubert, Larry Yoffee, Dave
Huntoon, Robert Gold, Anne Mae Gold and special guest Tim Shortle, a member of
Rocky Mountain CORSA, who was in town and joined our meeting.

Called to order at 5:02pm

President: Ray said, Happy Income Tax Day! Any tech talk topics for after our
meetings are greatly appreciated. Please bring in any topic you have. Larry says
that YouTube is full of interesting films and power points that we may be able
to share. Robert says that some of the old Corvair commercials are very
entertaining. Tarmo says that some of the Chevy commercials are also great.
Larry says that he will look into what equipment they have available at our
Domingo Baca meeting place to show these and other videos. Dave says that he
also has some VHS tapes. (Someone said, What are VHS tapes?) Please send in any
activities for June, July or August. Pat has mentioned a TUNA at his place.

VP: Tarmo has started going through his parts, he is thinking of writing an
article about what we do or could do with our odds and ends. Dave suggests that
the club may want to make an inventory list to organize what parts the members
have that they may want to sell, trade, or give to whoever needs it. Tarmo will
work on that. He mentioned a 1964 Corvair for sale in Santa Fe.

Secretary: not a thing

Treasurer: Our bank account totals $5,332.74 today.

Membership: Carol and Larry Haynes are our newest members from Santa Fe. Tarmo
met Larry and took him a newsletter. He is working on a 1965 Corsa turbo coupe.
We also have a potential new member in Carson, NM near Taos. Larry Yoffee
suggests that we may want to have another Saturday morning breakfast up in Santa
Fe so that the northern NM members can join us. Dave mentioned that this summer
we may want to have a potluck picnic for young and old, new, current, and past
members to reconnect. Discussion ensued on how to get the word out. How can we
connect with all these people? Newpaper community board, send out fliers, post
it on NMCCC website and CNM website, put an ad in CORSA? Ray suggests we look at
August or October for this reunion. Tarmo suggests Tetilla picnic area at
Cochiti Lake, but it depends on what the membership wants... trees, mountains,
lake, etc.

Editor: Friday, 4/24, is the deadline for material for the newsletter. Jim said
recent emails to CORSA groups included information on a "best chapter web site"
and news that the Baltimore chapter has expired. Jim says he takes advantage of
other newsletters and tries to share info with our membership.

Sunshine: Still vacant. Nothing to report.

Car Council: May 17 is the Museum Car Show. They will be featuring Dodges this
year. Admission is $10, cheap! Robert reported on the stuffing party that sent
out the above information about the Museum Car Show. Robert says that the
Corvair turnout has not been high over the last few years but fear not, Golden
Corvairs will be there.

New Business:

APR 18 Jefferson Middle School Car Show from 9am-1pm. Please attend if you can.

APR 25 the driving tour to Grants.

APR 28 Jeff Barrett of CORSA/NC is expected to be at the Owl Cafe on Eubank at
I-40 to meet with anyone interested. Ray has spoken to him and the date is still
good at this time. This is for the Make-a-Wish fundraiser. Pikes Peak is sending
us a check of $500 so that Ray can present it to him. Ray asked if the Club
wants to make a donation for $250. The Board approved. Also, members will be
asked at the Grants driving tour if they would like to make individual donations
to add to the club donation.

MAY 17 Albuquerque Museum Car Show. Please meet at the parking lot of Hotel
Albuquerque, we will drive in at around 7am.

MAY 29-31 The Tri-State in Durango. Tim Shortle reported on this. The host hotel
is the Hampton Inn, so far there are 51 reservations -- they had reserved a
block of 45 rooms! There will be a fiddle/BBQ venue dinner that people can
attend. The banquet will be at the VFW Hall. The T-shirt sales are up and
available, look on the Rocky Mountain CORSA website for information.

JUN 23 (Tuesday) the Great Race will have a stop and show in Santa Fe.
JUN 24 (Wednesday) the Great Race lunch stop in Old Town around 11:45.

Old Business:

Lube said the Old Route 66 cleanup was attended by 8 members. Thank you for your
participation. The signs at each end of our mile have been corrected. The 15
bags of trash have not yet been removed, according to Dave. The next pick up
will be on Saturday June 6th at 8am.

Miscellaneous Topics: Tomorrow Tim will be traveling to Burnett, Texas (Heart of
Texas Activity) to let them know about the Tri-State in Durango.

Adjourned at 6:16 pm

Several of us gathered around Tim's 1969 Monza coupe to learn more about this
rare Corvair.



Arriving at our board meeting site, along with the usual familiar cars in the
parking lot I saw a "1969-looking" yellow Monza with black California plates.
Among the people standing around the cars I recognized Tim Shortle from Durango
right away. Tim has, after all, become a "Corvair guru" in the southwest
Colorado area. Tim told us he was visiting CNM, then driving the Monza on to
Burnett, Texas for the Heart of Texas Reunion, April 17-19. He carried a
personal reminder and invitation to all Corvair folks along the way to attend
the Tri-State-Meet in Durango May 29-31. (Make sure you have your hotel
reservation! Tim is recruiting).

After our board meeting we sauntered out to the parking lot and looked at Tim's
1969 Monza some more. He said the car is in original condition with most parts
and painted surfaces still intact, as Body by Fisher and GM's factory built it.
Knowing this, we started studying the car to see what we could learn about
"original, factory finishes." I looked at the door striker post on the quarter
panel door opening, to see if they were painted or metal color, since this is
always a restoration question. These were painted. Looking at the interior, this
Monza's bucket seats/head rests are the same as the ones on the 1969 Camaros.
They were in great condition. The door panels, the dash pad and all the "safety
padding" around the radio and ash tray were intact, as were the shoulder belts
that you had to unclip and attach to the lap belt. The transmission was a
3-speed with a black shifter and shifter knob. This is a radio delete car --
just a plate where the radio would be, and no antenna or antenna hole in the

In the front trunk we saw dual master cylinders with piping and valves,
including a switch that drives the "idiot brake light" on the dash. We studied
how the finish and coverage of the splatter paint in the trunk interfaces with
the body paint, how the assembly screws and bolts are finished (painted or metal
finish) and at which assembly plant this car was built (always a restorer's

The engine has all the smog pipes, connectors, and air pump intact, adding
complexity and covering up the distributer. We looked at what types of screws,
bolts and fasteners were used and how they were placed. There was some
"dumb-dumb" putty still visible between the gaps in the shrouding.

We don't get to see 1969 Corvairs very often and don't remember all the changes
for the "better" that took place over time, especially the safety and smog
engine enhancements, so studying this 1969 certainly shows the direction and
level of complexity all GM cars were heading for. It is interesting to speculate
what Corvairs would have looked like in the 70's as more safety items were
mandated and 5-mile per hour bumpers were added. What would have happened when
air-cooled engines would only pass smog regulations for so long. Perhaps ending
the Corvair's production in 1969 left these cars intact, without the
embarrassing changes visible in so many 1970's cars as auto manufacturers tried
to make their cars meet federal regulations.

I look forward to meeting Tim in Durango at the end of May and studying his two
1969 Corvairs again in more detail.



First, let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. From the view of the Car Council
this is New Years since we didn't have any meetings from November until now. It
was a nice break, but now it's time to get down to business for the New Year.

To make up for the lack of meetings the Council has now had two meetings in
quick succession, and your Council rep was at both of them. For the first time
since I was elected to the Council's Board of Directors I actually got to attend
a Board meeting. Obviously, they don't meet very often. So this is, in part, my
report on that meeting.

First we heard from an individual who had been banned from participating in the
September swap meet. It appeared that he had gotten drunk, fought with his swap
meet neighbor, and a had been seen with a gun. It seemed reasonable to suspend
such a guy. However, he attended the meeting and pleaded his case with his wife
for reinstatement. Long story short -- the facts turned out to be a bit mirky,
he and his wife seemed to be really nice folks, so we just put them on probation
for a year and ended it like that. I guess I need to emphasize for any of you
who want to attend the swap meet -- don't drink in public and be sure to hide
all those guns you carry.

We then had some discussion of the upcoming Museum Car Show. All I can say is
that it's still on for Sunday, May 17. There will be a meeting with the City to
firm things up. Hopefully we can get a guarantee that there will not be any
flooding this year. Joyce Clements talked about the swap meet. She said she
needs help because the event has just gotten too big. The next step will be for
her to produce a chart detailing what is needed. That was to be presented to the
Council at the January meeting. That's about it for the board meeting. One other
thing of note is the snow storm I braved to get to the meeting. That got me
thinking about how each snowflake is different... amazing.

With the end of my first, ever Board meeting I only had to wait another week to
see all those Car Council folks again at the regular Car Council meeting. We
former government employees call that double dipping.

Even before the meeting at the Old Car Garage began, I got a chance to corral
Bob Agnew and tell him about the scheduling conflict between Wendy's memorial
service and the tour of his place. He understood the need to cancel the Garage
Tour and he invited us to visit him at a later date. At this time I don't know
what that later date will be.

The meeting itself was a bit uneventful. The main thing of interest was dealing
with the resignation of our former and current treasurer. He said he'd worked
enough at the job and we all agreed with him. The person who was being pressured
to take the job is Joe Ballengee, a current Board member. He took the
bureaucratic approach of having us name a committee to determine all the duties
of the job before he would consent to taking the position. I followed my wife's
instructions and didn't volunteer for the job. I guess she felt that being a
treasurer of a total of three organizations would be too much and I agreed with

On a sad note, it was mentioned that Louie Paul, the former Treasurer, continued
to be seriously sick with cancer, but he was still hanging in there.

A rep from the Sky City Casino spoke to the group about possible cruises out to
their facility. I got a chance to attend a religious celebration at Acoma and it
was quite an experience. The cruises could include a drive along old Route 66,
staying at the hotel, and a tour of Acoma. Just a thought....

I gave a report about the website. We've had no problems, so I didn't say much.
I will report to the group next month about the status of ownership of the
domain: Also, I need to research what we'll need to pay to
keep the name and continue to use the Weebly site to maintain our website. More
info next month.

Then we had discussions about the major Council events for this year:

1. The Museum Car Show,
2. Car Appreciation Day,
3. The Council Picnic,
4. The September swap meet.

I'll be saying more about these events when we get nearer to them. The dates can
be found on the Council's website.

Joyce then handed out a chart of needed help for the swap meet. I volunteered to
help put out signs on Friday morning. It seems if they are put out on Thursday,
they will probably disappear before the event. Joyce is looking for folks to
head up activities such as field supervisors for the three days, someone to take
charge of the "Hobo" dinner on Friday night, and coverage of other minor jobs.
This is a really big event and it's important that we get folks to help. I hope
to get some of you CNM'ers to help a bit more on Saturday. Remember, if you
volunteer you get free food and a chance to get an early start viewing what's
for sale. Please think about joining me and helping out either Friday morning
(8:00 am) or on Saturday during the day.

Lastly, it was reported that the Great American Car Race will be coming through
New Mexico in late June 2015. They will be at the Old Town Plaza at 11:45 on
June 24. I checked out the cars a few years ago and I still treasure the
pictures I took of all the unique rides. For your info, the J&R Museum, where
Wendy's memorial service will be held, houses several of these classic cars.
Info on the race can be found at their website

With that we adjourned at around 8:30. -- Robert Gold


 Anne Mae Gold
 Pat Hall
 Mary Lou Martinek
 Lisa Thompson
 Brenda Wilvert

 Mary Lou & Mark Martinek
 Lee & Bill Reider
 Leslie & Kevin Sullivan



The "crook" is a drain channel that was added to allow for faster draining of
water and crud out of the headlight bucket which would help prevent debris and
dirt build-up at the base of the bucket (expansion of Plumber's 1st rule: While
it flows downhill, the less lingering the less accumulation).  The drain channel
was introduced in 1966, thus the correct bezel for 1965 is no drain and bezel
with drain for 1966-1969.  Don't know if this change was "exactly" at the new
model year so there could very well be some late 1965s or early 1966s that break
this rule, this might be discussed in the Stock Group (sorry, am too lazy to
search).  Regarding reproductions, the repop bezels I've seen do not have the
drain and since the drain channel makes for a more complicated stamping I'd
doubt any have it, but never say never.

If you were asking for it here it is.  If not, this is a good excuse to reach
out and say "Hi".  Anyway, hope all is well, maybe I'll make it off the mountain
one of these days and come see you guys.



TREASURY REPORT ************* 03-20-2015 to 04-24-2015 ************* ROBERT GOLD

DATE      CHECK#    AMOUNT PAYEE       DESCRIPTION           BALANCE = $5,332.74
========== ==== ========== =========== =========================================
2015.03.23      +$  805.95 DEPOSIT     Anniversary Dinner              $  559.95
2015.03.23                 CORSA Dues  L.Blair        26 m CORSA       $   90.00
2015.03.23                 CNM Dues    L.Blair        26 m CNM         $   50.00
2015.03.23                 CORSA Dues  M.Morgan       12 m CORSA       $   45.00
2015.03.23                 CNM   Dues  M.Morgan       12 m CNM         $   25.00
2015.03.23 2197 -$  770.00 El Norteno  Anniversary Dinner, 39 persons  $  665.95
2015.03.23                 El Norteno  Tip for Anniversary Dinner      $  104.05
2015.03.25 2193 -$   45.00 CORSA Dues  M.Morgan       12 m CORSA      -$   45.00
2015.03.25 2196 -$   31.40 H.Pittman   MAR 2015 Newsletter_Printing   -$   31.40
2015.03.25 2194 -$  125.00 J.Pittman   Annual Newsletter expenses     -$  125.00
2015.04.01 2199 -$   27.07 J.Pittman   APR 2015 Newsletter_Printing   -$   27.07
2015.04.01 2200 -$   85.85 J.Pittman   Newsletter postage, 3 months   -$   85.85
========== ==== ========== =========== =========================================
2015.04.24 ********************** ENDING BALANCE ********************* $5,054.37



For those of you who don't know (pretty much anyone in CNM) J.D. Forney was a
manufacturer early in the last century. He was headquartered in Ft. Collins,
Colorado and made various things like airplanes, vacuum cleaners and electric
welders. He went along with no real connection to cars until 1955 when his wife
made him a gift of a yellow 1921 Kissel Tourister, the same model he used to win
her heart when they were courting.

Something clicked with Mr. Forney and he started acquiring other cars. One
technique he used was to take cars in on trade for his welding equipment. It
didn't take long and he had a full-blown collection that was housed in a
building adjacent to his factory. He shared this collection with the public on
Saturdays and Sundays, charging the exorbitant fee of 10 cents for children and
25 cents for adults to get in.

In 1955, a chance meeting with the developer of a massive new Denver Mall called
"Cinderella City" resulted in the collection being moved en masse to the mall.
The developer wanted the cars there for publicity and didn't charge old J.D.
anything to house the cars. A very nice deal.

However, J.D. couldn't stop collecting cars (I'm sure we all can relate!) and
within two years the collection had outgrown the available mall space. Looking
around for a place to go with the cars, J.D. found a massive brick building near
downtown that had housed a powerhouse for a tramway company that ran in Denver
years earlier. The collection had grown to hundreds of cars. It remained at this
location for about 30 years, under the name The Forney Musuem.

It was at this juncture that my son, Art, and I came upon the scene. We were
looking for something fun to do on a a sunny afternoon in Denver and noticed a
listing for the Forney Museum and decided to take it in. Just driving up to the
building was a treat. This massive red brick building just dripped history. The
building was located in downtown Denver next to I-25 and various railroad
tracks. Art and I were really excited at what we'd see inside. As it turned out
the result was both good and bad.

First the bad. As anyone who has met Art knows, he needs a building to be
wheelchair accessible. The Forney was not. We were faced with a couple of
flights of steps to get to the floor where the cars and some trains were. It was
not a deal breaker. The museum staff offered him free admission because of the
access problems and with help Art arrived on the museum floor in one piece. At
this point the adventure began.

On the semi-lighted floor we faced a massive group of antique cars. As we
traveled through the collection we were amazed at all the car names we had never
heard of. Row upon row of them were there. Several had plastic on them to ward
off water dripping from the ceiling. The setting was as rustic as the cars were.
In many ways we were transported back to the time when these cars were the only
ones on the road. I was most impressed with a model that literally looked like a
wagon with  no place to hook up horses, and tucked in the back was a tiny
two-cylinder engine. I remember the display description said this model was
popular with doctors in rural areas. Another car of note was a little yellow
convertible owned by Amelia Earhart. They even had a copy of the original
registration with her signature on it. Art and I were hooked. We couldn't wait
until our next vist to Denver to go there again. It was virtually impossible to
take in everything in one visit.

The museum subsequently moved to a modern, handicapped accessible facility in
the northern part of town. We had a great time visiting the cars there, even
though the surroundings weren't quite as interesting.

Ok, so now you know more than you probably want to know about the Forney. And at
this point you are asking, so why should I be interested in just another car
museum? Even one as cool as this one. Here is the punch line. This fall there
will be a display of Corvairs at the museum. What's more, in that display will
be a vehicle you will be familiar with if you've attended some of CNM's car
shows and displays.

It seems that recently I sold my pristine 1962 Greenbrier van to Dave Feasel in
Colorado Springs. He belongs to the club up there and has also joined CNM! I've
been corresponding with him since he hauled the beast up north, and in his
latest email he said the gray and white Greenbrier that my family dubbed Prince
Charming, will be included in the display. A van I used to own and show at CNM
events will be at the Forney!

So I want to thank Dave Feasel for arranging for Prince Charming to be included
in the display. I asked for pictures, so hopefully you'll see pictures of the
van in all its glory in a few months. Things have really come full circle for
Art and me. And now you know exactly why you should know about old J.D. Forney.
--- Robert Gold



Oldtimers will remember that back in 1993 we voted to make a presentation to
CORSA to have the Convention in Albuquerque in 1996. The request was granted and
we started work. Many planning sessions were held at the home of Debbie & Dennis
Pleau and many CNM members worked long hours for some 18 months to make the best
possible Convention. One of our projects was to restore and raffle a Corvair.
LeRoy Rogers donated a 1965 Monza coupe and Wendell Walker did much of the body
work while other members donated parts and labor. The Convention was held in
June of 1996 and the raffle car was won by Rosie & Bob Bauer of the Show-Me
Corvair Club of St. Louis, Missouri. In 2007 we published an article by Bob
Bauer in which he reported on the raffle car.

I received emails from Bill Brown of the Show-Me Corvair Club telling me he had
purchased the 1965 Monza and asking for more information about it:

April 15, 2015 -- Greetings! My name is Bill Brown and I am a member of The Show
Me Corvair Club here in St. Louis Mo. My wife and I recently purchased a 1965
Monza coupe from a fellow club member. With the collection of paperwork we
received for it was an issue of the Communique dated May 1996. On the cover of
that issue was a picture of the raffle car to be won during the Vairs In The Air
1996 Corsa International Convention. This was when we learned we just purchased
that exact car!

I was wondering if you had any info on this car that we could obtain to go along
with the Communique so we could display it with the car. Maybe a newsletter with
it mentioned or anything with pictures would be great. Please let me know of any
costs involved and I would reimburse you for the effort.

It is still in decent shape and still shows well. My wife and I have a 1965
Corsa convertible that is still being worked on and we wanted something to drive
to the club events this year and the opportunity came about to purchase it.

I have included some pictures taken recently.

Thanks for any info you can give me!

April 16, 2015 - We were very fortunate that this car became available this
year. We just got to hear our Corsa run for the first time since the previous
owner parked it in 1986 but I knew I wouldn't get it on the road this year. We
wanted something to drive with the rest of the gang to the various planned
events this year. My wife was also hinting about wanting A/C. Not really looking
forward to putting air on the Corsa, I figured this was the best way to go. Now
she has her car and I have mine!

My wife and I are relative newcomers to the Corvair world having been club
members for almost two years and a Corvair owner for one. We literally went to a
club meeting just to "have a ride" in one to my wife becoming Treasurer and me a
board member and now the proud owners of two cars! I am saddened to hear of the
passing of Mr. Walker, but please let LeRoy Rogers and the rest of those who
worked on it know that we are really excited to have this car sitting in our
garage and can't wait to start enjoying it!



It's here! The New Mexico Council of Car Clubs will be hosting their 31st Annual
Automobile Show at the Albuquerque Museum in Old Town, 2000 Mountain Road NW, on
Sunday, May 17, 2015, in the parking lot directly in front of the Museum. The
registration fee for this year's show is $10.00 -- the same as the last five

I encourage you to dust off your Corvair, in whatever condition it may be, and
join your fellow CNM'ers at this show. All you need to do is be at the Hotel
Albuquerque north parking lot at 800 Rio Grande Blvd NW before 7:00 am when we
will caravan to the show. The show ends in the mid-afternoon. If you have any
questions give me a call at 268-6878 or email me at I can't
guarantee that you will have a good time, but personally, I have enjoyed this
show for almost 20 years. Remember, the Albuquerque Museum is next to Old Town
where you can shop 'til you drop.

Hope to see a whole bunch of you at the show!

    -- Robert Gold


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                    at Wyoming & Carmel, north of Wyoming & Paseo del Norte NE.
          After the meeting, we may go to "JASON'S DELI" at 5920 Holly Ave. NE.

Sat 16 May  1:00 PM Los Lunas - Wells Fargo Bank, Bosque Farms
Bill Schofield 505-565-2105, David Silva 505-550-8415, or

Sun 17 May - Albuquerque Museum/NMCCC Annual Car Show - Albuquerque Museum,
*** 2000 Mountain Rd. NW, Albuquerque - contact:
*** Meet at the Old Town Sheraton parking lot at 7:00 AM - entry fee is $10.

Fri 22 May  9:00 PM  Deadline for items for June 2015 newsletter


May 29-30-31 - 2015 Tri-State -- Durango, Colorado
   Hotel: Hampton Inn Durango 970-247-2600 3777 Main Avenue, Durango.
   Room rate: $110+tax per night which includes a hot breakfast.
   This rate is good until April 29, 2015.
   Mention "CORVAIR TRI STATE DURANGO 2015" if calling for a reservation.
   Call me with any questions.
   Tim Shortle 970-247-9675 days Mon - Fri 970-903-2127 eves - weekends
[ NOTE: if the Hampton Inn is full, try the nearby KNIGHT'S INN ]
[ 3515 Main Ave Durango CO - 1-866-599-6674 / 970-247-4042 - John Wiker ]

Sat  6 Jun  8:00 AM  Old Route 66 cleanup - meet at the I-40 / NM 333 triangle

Fri 19 Jun  9:00 PM  Deadline for items for July 2015 newsletter

Sat 20 Jun  1:00 PM Los Lunas - Wells Fargo Bank, Bosque Farms
Bill Schofield 505-565-2105, David Silva 505-550-8415, or

Tue 23 Jun   Early! THE GREAT RACE Santa Fe Plaza --
Wed 24 Jun 11:45 AM THE GREAT RACE Lunch in Old Town

Sat  4 Jul  EARLY!  Fourth of July on the Plaza - Santa Fe - Pancake Breakfast


Fri 10 Jul - 6th Annual Collector Car Appreciation Day - Activities are planned
Sat 11 Jul - 6th Annual Collector Car Appreciation Day - Activities are planned

Sat 18 Jul  1:00 PM Los Lunas - Wells Fargo Bank, Bosque Farms
Bill Schofield 505-565-2105, David Silva 505-550-8415, or


Fri 24 Jul  9:00 PM  Deadline for items for August 2015 newsletter
Sun  9 Aug - All Clubs Picnic - Oak Flat Picnic Area, South Rt 337
Sat 19 Sep - 9:30 AM Annual Santa Fe Airshow
Sat 19 Sep - Concours du Soleil - Albuquerque -
Sun 20 Sep - Concours du Soleil - Albuquerque -
Fri 25 Sep - NMCCC / Los Lunas Annual Swap Meet
Sat 26 Sep - Morris Sports Complex, Morris Rd. & Hwy 314, Los Lunas
Sun 27 Sep -
See the New Mexico Council of Car Clubs Web Site for more "NMCCC" activities
======================== ======================



2008 Vol 34 Nr 5 # 392

A slightly rusty 1968 Corvair on a lift was the background for the smiling trio:
Pat Hall, Bill Reider and Jon Anderson. Chuck Vertrees provided a U.S. map
showing the location of all CORSA chapters. We had $2,459 in the bank. There was
a discussion of the club's financial health and a recommendation that we
increase our dues. LeRoy Rogers told the history of the club's Library Van, a
1961 8-door with a 1964 engine. Mike Stickler and Ray Trujillo reported on the
TUNA in Los Lunas in which Pat showed how to lubricate rear wheel bearings. We
had a tech article by Bob Helt on Corvair cooling fans. At least five exotic old
cars were seen at the Spring Thaw event. Richard Finch reported on an expensive
auto accident blamed on fast-idle and weak breaking knee. Chuck reported on our
April 5th rally with first place going to Ultra Van driver Dan Palmer and
navigator Jonathan Reider. Tech Tip: Geoff Johnson told how to add audio input
to a stock radio. A long 18-page newsletter this month!

2001 Vol 27 Nr 5 # 308

Our cover featured Larry Blair and his spectacular Spyder convertible. Inside, a
photo of Ilva Walker who died on March 28, 2001. Our April meeting at Galles was
conducted by President Hurley and Treasurer Wendell reported $5700 in the bank.
Mark Martinek reported on the Car Council meeting. The Museum Car Show was to be
May 20, yes, on Tri-State weekend. We traded in a Funkahna for a Progressive
Dinner. New name badges were available. Eight Corvairs participated in the first
drive over the high flyover bridge of the Big-I project. Photos of our tour of
the Big-I were on Jim's web page. President Hurley praised many "old reliable"
members who always do their parts to keep CNM running smoothly.

Debbie Pleau updated us on many details of the upcoming Tri-State at Manitou
Springs, making us all feel welcome. Anne Mae Gold reported on club Ladies'
activities, in particular, a meeting at Kay's home in Santa Fe. A tech tip from
Virtual Vairs told more than anyone could ever need to know about '66 turn
signal wiring. Finally, Larry Blair reported, with photos, on his visit to St.
George, Utah, to a gathering of the Bonneville folks. He wrapped up our issue
with a quiz on what we learned on the Big-I tour.

1994 Vol 20 Nr 5 # 224

The cover showed a Rampside. President Del ran the meeting and Treasurer Will
reported $1075 in the bank. We planned details of our participation in the
Museum Car Show. We discussed several other events, trips and tech sessions.
Debbie Pleau reported on plans for the 1996 convention. We had our famous photo
rally and we all had lots of fun but encountered some frustration trying to
count those "HILL BLOCKS VIEW" and "35 MPH" signs. Del Patton's tech talk on
replacing shroud seals made it sound easy, at least if you make your own new
staples out of pieces of wire. Another tech tip told about a 68-cent space-age
gasket for drain plugs: GM number 24571185. Finally, from the North American MGA
Register, a claim that oil leaks on British sports cars were actually a feature,
not a bug. If you have a drippy Corvair and need to tell your Honda or Ford
friends why your car is followed around by a mist of petroleum droplets, maybe
you should read this.

1987 Vol 13 Nr 5 # 140

On the cover: a secret spy photo of the 1988 Corvair. Well, that's what Bill
Reider told us. Actually it was a drawing produced by a new Apple III computer
program. Tarmo ran our meeting in the president's absence and Treasurer LeRoy
reported $690 in the bank. Our auction made $75. Steve was working on seats for
the Club's library van. Jerry told us how to keep stray oil out of the engine
area when doing your annual oil change. President Clayborne encouraged us to
clean off those nasty oil deposits before showing our cars at the Tri-State,
coming up in Ouray, Colorado. A tip called "The Dime Test" revealed the secret
to tightening valve covers "just enough" to seal and not leak. A news item said
Don Yenko, father of the Stinger, had died in a plane crash. Bill Reider
previewed our Museum car show; we planned to treat it as a major concours event
following CORSA's rules.

1980 Vol 6 Nr 5 # 56

This issue was our first without a "picture" on the cover; instead it had a tech
tip by Sylvan about proper positioning of spark plug leads from the distributor.
We had 31 members and guests at the April meeting. Secretary Mary Twilley
donated for our raffle a handsome handmade billfold with a Corvair design. Bill
Reider gave a talk on carburetor balancing. Tech tips: how to remove door trim,
how to build and use a special oil pressure tool, how to restore rubber
moulding, how to properly connect the condenser on the generator housing, how to
use a 3/4" 12-point socket to remove a 5/8" square plug, how to use an 11/16"
12-point socket to remove a transmission filler plug. A new product called
"Rain-X" was praised for keeping windshields clear during our spring downpours.

Enchanted Corvairs Newsletter is published monthly by Corvairs of New Mexico,
chartered Chapter #871 of CORSA, the Corvair Society of America. Copyright by
the Authors and by Corvairs of New Mexico. Articles may be reprinted in any
CORSA publication as a service to CORSA members, provided credit to the Author
and this Newsletter is clearly stated. All opinions are those of the Author or
Editor and are not necessarily endorsed by Corvairs of New Mexico or CORSA.
Material for publication should reach the Editor by the 15th of the month. Send
material via e-mail ( jimp @ ) or submit a readable manuscript. I prefer
ASCII TEXT, but MS Word or RTF are fine. Photographs are welcome. Don't
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labels with a 1989 Apple IIgs on a Hewlett-Packard LaserJet IIIp. The newsletter
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more details. Transportation: 1965 Corvair Monza, 1990 Honda Civic, 1996 Mazda
Miata and 2013 Honda Civic. When I'm 64, I'll get by with a little help from my